SPEAKER_01 0:02

Welcome to the Transform Your Mind Radio Hour and Podcast, a show about transformation, mindset transformation. This is Life Coach Mernie Young, and in my book, Out of the Snares, The Story of Hope and Encouragement, I share my journey of being born in poverty in Guyana to have an abundance in America. And I did it by changing my mindset. Let's go do it. Each week, I bring you guests for one-on-one coaching sessions to help you change your mindset and transform your life. Welcome back to the Transform Your Mind, the Transform Your Life Radio, Podcast, and Television Show. I'm your host, Life Coach Murnie Young, and sitting in the guest chair today is Dr. Don Wood. Dr. Don and I are going to be talking on the topic the connection between childhood trauma and autoimmune disorders. Welcome, Dr. Don.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Hey Myrna. Great to meet you.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Yes, pleasure to meet you too. You know, um, I just finished um listening to the book, What Happened to You. And that is a profound book on trauma, which is where we're going to be spending some time on today. Um, but that book focused on the results of childhood trauma on uh, you know, mental health and relationships and things like that. But I don't think I've ever read a book or and I've had a lot of guests talk about trauma on this show that connect them to autoimmune disorders. So this is going to be new information for me, new information from listeners. So I'm going to enjoy learning from you today, Dr. Don.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

Sounds great. Very good. I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Yes. All right. Yes, a teachable moment for me. Okay, so let me give you guys some more information, a short um bio on Dr. Don Wood. He is a PhD, developed the TIPP method after spending years researching how atmospheric conditions affect our minds and impact our lives. He went back to school later in life to get his PhD in clinical counseling and psychology to learn how to heal his daughter's Crohn's disease and his wife's autoimmune disease. Dr. Wood says that both my daughter and my wife experienced childhood trauma, and I saw how it affected their life, including their health. They both developed autoimmune disorders. The TIPP program developed by Dr. Wood has benefited individual individuals all across the world. Dr. Wood is also the author of two books, You Must Be Out of Your Mind and Emotional Concussions. Both are focused on how we can all make the desired changes by allowing our minds to reset and reboot. Dr. Wood has spoken on these topics domestically and internationally. A frequent podcast guest, um, he's a favorite. Um Dr. Wood has appeared on over a hundred podcasts, including a mountain, Dave Asprey's Bulletproof Radio, Spartan Up Podcast, Unbeatable Mind, Ben Green's Fitness, ATP Science Podcast, and now the Transform Your Mind radio podcast and television show. Awesome. Now this is going to be your best interview, okay?

SPEAKER_03 3:51

I agree, absolutely. I love your attitude.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

That's right, right. Yes, you know, we're talking about rebooting the mind here. So this is the show for you. All right. So I want to start off by, you know, you know, putting a pin on something you said in your bio. You said that you went back to school later in life to get your PhD in clinical counseling in psychology to learn how to heal your daughter's Crohn's disease and your wife's autoimmune disease. You also said that trauma were the causes for both afflictions. Can you share the connection between trauma and autoimmune disease? Like I started the show. I've never seen that connection before.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

Yeah, absolutely. And it was really because of my daughter. My wife, when I met her, um, I realized that she was living in a very different household than I grew up in. She had a very um traumatic childhood with a very disruptive father. And so she developed Hashimoto's, which is a thyroid disorder. And so she was in a constant state of fight or flight. Um, and it wasn't until my daughter was diagnosed with Crohn's at age 14 that we then started to look for answers for her. And she was just basically told that get off of gluten and dairy and change your diet, but they really had no answer. And then uh when she was 16, she disclosed to us some childhood trauma that she'd experienced between the ages of six and eight that we were unaware of. Um, she also, and I I usually sometimes don't talk about this, but she actually had a second autoimmune disorder called idiopathic pulmonary hemosiderosis, which is just a long form for I'm not gonna try to repeat that. It's a long one. But basically, what it is, it's another autoimmune that affects the lungs, and the iron in the lungs just is causes the lungs to bleed out. And so basically, that could be a death sentence because one out of uh 1.2 million people get it, and a fair percentage of them die from it within five years. And so that is really what started having me look for answers. And I made the connection in my mind between unresolved trauma. What I mean unresolved is it's continuing to loop, the people are continuing to experience it. And so when that is active, that creates inflammation in the body. The inflammation then compromises your immune system and your neurotransmitters. So if your immune system is compromised, like it was with my daughter's, the inflammation stays active. Inflammation is basically a temporary pause in the system to protect the system against a threat. The problem for my daughter was the threat continued because the memory of her trauma was looping and continued to stay active. And so that's what I believe is the connection between these autoimmune issues is if you don't resolve that trauma, it just continues because the cells. So for my daughter, it showed up in her intestinal area. You know, there's a lot of people who end up with Crohn's, colitis, IBS, things like that. And the cells go into a cell danger response. And so they basically become hardened and enlarged, right? Inflamed to protect the system temporarily until the danger passes. Then the immune system comes in, cleans up, and takes over. But for my daughter, it didn't affix because she constantly was feeling the experiences from the trauma of her childhood. So it stayed in this active cell danger response. So after we got the trauma resolved for my daughter, she hasn't had a Crohn's flare. And so there's no other explanation in my mind that why her Crohn's would stop and her idiopathic pulmonary issues also stopped. And so there was where I made the connection between the two.

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SPEAKER_03 12:11

Um, again, I just believe it's coming down to inflammation. So it shows up genetically different and different people. So for my daughter, it ended up in her lower intestinal area. Uh, she also ended up with her lungs. My wife ended up with a thyroid disorder. I think it just shows up depending on where your weakest link is in your system.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

And so that's why it shows up in different places for different people.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Okay. Now you mentioned specifically that your wife's trauma happened between the ages of six and eight.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

Now it's actually my daughter, my daughter's trauma.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

That was your daughter, okay. Yeah. Um, between six and eight. Um, am I assuming that you adopt her or something?

SPEAKER_03 12:51

Um, no, she was actually there was another young girl in the neighborhood that was a little older that had been abusing her that we were unaware of. We thought she was just like a big sister, and so she had been abusing her, and we didn't know about it, and then we moved, so we didn't it stopped, obviously, because we moved, and then when she was 16, my daughter disclosed it to us. And then it and by now she's got Crohn's. So, again, we hadn't quite made that connection yet because it was like we were told by the doctors that she's just gonna have to learn to live with Crohn's, and she'll eventually she had to have have four resections done where they had to literally go in and cut out pieces, and so she really suffered, and they said eventually she'll just end up with a colostomy bag, and so that's why my wife said my wife did all kinds of research, and everything that she was learning was teaching people to live and manage and cope with it, but not fix it because they say there's no cure for Crohn's.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Okay, all right, yeah, they do. I mean, at one point in time, um, you know, I had some intestinal problems where I was getting blockages. Well, I just had one, but they thought that I had Crohn's disease, so I know exactly what you're talking about, um, being unable to digest certain things. Um, yeah, so that was really good research, and that's really good information as far as um addressing what you said, that if you don't um uh take care of the trauma, it continues to loop and inflammation is still present because your body is constantly in fight or fight or flight, and not your vagus nerve is not getting a chance to relax and and do things like that. So, one of the things on the show that I talk about constantly is um trauma and abuse and and things like that. So um, you know, our listeners are in that space, and now this is good information to know that if you if you're having autoimmune disorders, then uh maybe you might want to look at the fact that um you might have unresolved childhood issues, and there's a host of people that has unresolved childhood issues, ones they talk about, you know, I belong to a um a group once called that was called speak up or speak out or something like that. And that's because a lot of kids that um you know had something happen to them, just like your daughter, don't talk about it. They don't talk about it until they're much older. So it's you know, you know, whether it's shame or or or shame.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

There's a lot of shame and guilt around it because children start to blame themselves for what's going on, which is not accurate. Right. But the reason that happens is because a child doesn't have enough life experience to understand what they're experiencing. So they tend to take it and internalize it, right? I I must be deserving this, I must have done something wrong. Why is this happening to me? And if you don't have a lot of life experience, you could see how easily that misinterpretation could come in. And then what happens is when when they're in that situation, as long as they're in a fight or flight state, the body is getting little maintenance done. That's why people continue to get sicker. So if you're being chased by a lion, you could run on jagged rocks and bare feet and not feel the pain because your mind is not going to try to do anything but survive in that time. So when you're in this constant fight or flight, a lot of the energy that's used for maintenance is being used for survival. So I grew up in this idyllic childhood, amazing parents, and I've been healthy my entire life. The only thing that makes any sense is that my nervous system as a child was always regulated. Right. So if I got bumped a little bit, I'm coming home and everything just settles down. So my wife never had that. My wife didn't have a safe place. There was no safe landing place. So she constantly stayed in this state of fear. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Right. That's Dr. Perry's favorite word, and that's a new word for me. Um, regulated. You know, um, yes, I mean, I didn't understand what that meant, but now um I have a, you know, it's it's one of my new words in my vocabulary, and I understand um what regulated means, but maybe you might want to explain it, um, what that really means to our listeners.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

Sure. So I know you had mentioned the vagus nerve as well. So the vagus nerve is either going to activate your sympathetic or parasympathetic nervous system. Your sympathetic is your fight or flight. And so your parasympathetic is your rest and digest. So the idea behind it is if there's a constant threat going on, your mind is feeling unsafe, your sympathetic nervous system is going to be constantly activated. And 80% of the messaging from the vagus nerve comes from the stomach. So there's where all that inflammation starts coming in because most of the messaging, they say your gut is your second brain, is sending information to the brain that there's something wrong and we're in stress. And so then the inflammation comes in and the rest and digest, the parasympathetic nervous system is now turned off and is and is responding from the sympathetic. The idea behind it is when you're in regulation, that sympathetic responds to a threat that is current. And a parasympathetic is what you're supposed to be in most of the time. The problem is coming in, is that trauma continues to activate that vagus nerve sympathetic nervous system because the mind, it's a glitch, actually. I call it an error message. Your mind thinks the memory is still real because it sees it in real time. And so it's activating that system to try to protect you, even though there's nothing happening. It's just information about something that happened.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Yeah, that's like your response system, right? So yeah, he was talking about Dr. Perry was talking about when he was using the word regulated, he's talking about maybe using music to soothe you and regulate your or having. Um, I remember when, you know, I was doing foster care. One of the things that they had said to me is they like my house because it's structured. And that's another thing he was talking about. If people, you know, just like you said, fear and unregulated nothing happens at the same time, or you're always wondering, you know, let's say your father is an alcoholic and you're always wondering when he's gonna come home and beat your mom or beat you or something that is unregulated. But you know, regulated would be like you had a perfect childhood where you know maybe seven o'clock is dinner, or your father or your mom is gonna tuck you in, or those type of things. So I think one of the one of the things that Dr. Prey was talking about is that you know, the first the first thing that you can do is start regulating them and maybe you know, setting up, you know, um uh experiences that they can they they can understand and and uh appreciate and and know that it's coming, kind of thing, which is one one of the reasons I wanted to um to ask you about that.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

So now you have just just to just to elaborate a little bit further on that, that's one of the things that was difficult for my wife. I couldn't understand why, even though we were living, she was living in my world now, right? I was very much like my father, we were doing well, so we had a beautiful home with three beautiful children, yet she wasn't enjoying it. And it was like, why? Like, what is it about this that isn't made she didn't understand what it was. Now I do. As a child, she learned right that things good times end and they end really quickly.

SPEAKER_04 20:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

So she never wanted to get into that position of getting her hopes up that things were gonna be okay because her experiences, which I call her atmospheric conditions, had been very dark and stormy. So she's expecting the storm, and so I don't want to start feeling safe because I know the storm's coming, even though it wasn't coming, it was that loop.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

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SPEAKER_01 23:03

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SPEAKER_03 24:47

And that's and that's the best part about, you know, somebody asked me one time, what's the best advice you could give to a parent? And I said, make your home safe because the world's gonna give them enough hassles, right? We're gonna get those little bumps along the way, everybody gets those. But if you can come home and get your nervous system back into regulation, that's what would happen to me as a child. So I was in this constant state of I could expand a little bit and come right back into regulation. My wife couldn't do that because there was no safety. And so, but here's the really good news, Myrna, is not only can you manage that, which I know Dr. Perry's talking about music and all those kinds of things, our program can fix it. We don't need to live and manage with it. We can actually fix it.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Okay, so that's good, which is basically where my next question was. But I want to say this because I thought it was very interesting the way you put it. You said that people that experience symptoms from unresolved trauma, such as addiction, PTSD, anxiety, achieving peak performance of the sport, business, and relationships. Um you say to think of those unresolved trauma as rust. And you said that most programs and therapies solution is to paint a cover over the rust. Whereas your program, the TIP T TIPP program, removes the rust altogether. So now this is your opportunity to tell us what does TIPP stand for and what does it do?

SPEAKER_03 26:17

Okay, so TIPP is TIP, it stands for the Inspired Performance Program. And the reason we called it performance, not trauma therapy, was because I start off with the premise that there's nothing wrong with anybody, there's nothing wrong with anybody's mind. Your mind is filtering through your unique set of experiences to respond to your current present situation. And so when you talked about uh uh the rust, what I say is if you just paint over the rust, the rust will bubble up through the paint eventually. But the key is to sand it down, prime it, and then paint it. And then the rust is gone. And that's what we do. So what we do with Tip is I take you through a process, it's a four-hour process that we basically reboot and refresh that old traumatic memory. And the the best way to explain it is I and people who are listening to this, you can do this along with this. Is I'll say, Can you remember what you ate for dinner last night? So I'll ask you, Myrna, can you remember what you ate for dinner last night?

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

What did you what did you have?

SPEAKER_01 27:24

I had um uh rice and beans with something that we call trunk. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

Okay. So if when you're looking at this, you'll notice that you looked up. And when you looked up, you saw pictures, right, of what you ate.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 27:39

That's how you stored the information about dinner last night. No other animal does that. Only humans store that kind of explicit detail about events and experiences. Now, your survival brain is operating about 95% of everything for you. And your survival brain is fully present and in the moment. Now, when we have a traumatic event, all your senses are heightened sight, smell, hearing. So, how's it gonna record that? Very bright, very intense, with a tremendous amount of data brought in. So, can you see where this glitch is gonna come in now? If for some reason your mind accesses that memory that was traumatic and it sees all that intensity and high definition to it, when does it think it's happening?

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Right now.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Right now. So if you're in a threatening situation, doesn't it make sense that all of a sudden your sympathetic nervous system would engage, your heart would start racing, right? You would go into that kind of a response, even though there's no threat. It's just information about a threat. That's post-traumatic stress. The person is constantly reliving through that memory. So what we do in our program is we're going to take that high-definition traumatic memory and get your mind to reprocess that into the same format as to what you ate for dinner last night. It takes a lot of that intensity out of it. So now when you recall it, your mind doesn't call for the action. Because when you have an emotion, the purpose of an emotion is a call for an action. The purpose of fear is to escape a threat. The purpose of anger is to attack a threat. So if you think about something that happened to you five years ago and your heart starts pounding, it's a glitch. It's an error message. Your mind thinks you need to do something. So I worked with the Boston Marathon bombing survivors and Vegas shooting victims and Rebecca Gregory, she was three feet from the first bomb at the Boston Marathon. And so when she came to see me five and a half years afterwards, she was suffering with from post-traumatic stress, having terror nightmares every night. And so what I said to her is I said, as she started to talk to me, I said, Rebecca, do you know why you're shaking and crying right now? And she says, Well, because I'm talking about what happened to me. I says, Right, but your mind thinks there's a bomb right behind you about to go off.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Wow. You're seeing it in real time safe in your office. Yes, right.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

It doesn't make any sense. By the time I was finished in the four hours, she could talk about everything that happened that day without shaking and crying. We reset that data so that the mind stopped calling for the action. That's the way to fix it.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Nice. I love that. You know, I feel like I've gone to um to school after you know reading that book, What Happened to Me, because I can identify with every single thing you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Because Dr. Perry, he um had an analogy in the book about um a guy that was walking down the street and heard uh a motorcycle backfire, and he jumped on in the middle of the street and went into comeback position because that backfire reminded him of being in in the war, right? So that's basically exactly what you're talking about, right? Exactly. So now listen, I understand this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

So so what is actually happening is his mind, your mind, right, is constantly doing Google searches. What do we know about this current environment we're in? Have we seen it before, heard it before, experienced it before? So when that gentleman heard that backfire, his mind said, What do we know about that kind of a noise? Does this Google search starts pulling up a whole bunch of data about the bombs, right? And then creates a flight response. Yes, yes, and it and it has you have no choice in that matter. That's why I say there's nothing wrong with that person. Their mind's doing exactly what it's designed to do, which is protect you. However, it's dealing with faulty information, it's dealing with old data. Wow, yes, and we can fix that.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Wow, right? That's absolutely amazing. That is absolutely amazing because you're right. You know, you go to a therapist and you tell them that you know you're having these nightmares or you're back in Vietnam or wherever you were, or you you're back in the bomb, and they just give you a pill. You know what I mean? So I'm glad that there's doctors like you that are trying to fix it instead of just paint over it, like you're saying, like a pill, what is is a way of painting over it, I would assume, right? Wow.

SPEAKER_03 32:41

Um, what the pill is doing is blocking the Google search, it's not fixing the problem. So you numb yourself out so you don't feel that pain, right? You're not experiencing. That's why when people are taking the medication, they're not experiencing those symptoms because they're not thinking about it, the mind's not recalling that data. But as soon as the medication wears off, right, they go back into their normal response and start doing Google searches. That's what I call it. Your brain, your brain's brain.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Yeah, that is, you know, I know that every single thing that we do is recorded, right? We only remember some of it, there are important things, but every single thing is recorded. So yeah, when it's doing the Google search, it's going back to memories, you know. Um now, you also said that um your program, your TIPP program, also helps people um uh by rebooting uh, you know, you know, panic attacks and anxiety. So I guess it works the same way. Um if I can think this through, it would be, you know, the panic attack and anxiety is the fight or flight response to this memory, right?

SPEAKER_03 33:55

Correct. Yeah, so panic attacks are basically it's actually a combination of the um emotional and physical. So the mind is feeling threatened for some reason, but it can't find the danger. And then what happens is it starts to activate your nervous system, right? And so all of a sudden now your brain starts getting messages from the vagus nerve, from the system saying, right, we're running low on oxygen. So this the brain is like, there's gotta be a lion around here somewhere. I can't see the lion, right? And then the body starts sending messages like our CO2 has changed, our oxygen level has changed, right? And so all of those signals come into the brain when the brain's already feeling a stress, it then goes into a panic attack.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

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SPEAKER_03 37:50

So I I I wrote a patent for a band that you can wear on your wrist to detect a panic attack up to an hour before.

SPEAKER_04 37:56

Oh really?

SPEAKER_03 37:57

Because the panic attacks are starting before you know it. So the mind is doing this constant search, right? Looking for a problem that it can't find, starts to activate the nervous system, which then starts sending messages to the brain. And it's happening up to an hour before the panic attack happens.

SPEAKER_04 38:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 38:16

But people think the panic attack can come on instantly.

SPEAKER_04 38:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

It was starting an hour before. So the idea behind this band is that the band will detect when the mind is starting to do that. And then when it's starting to recognize, and then what I teach you in our program is how to shut it down.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 38:35

So we've had a lot of people go through who have had panic attacks, um, who has just stopped because we can shut it down. Again, it's another glitch.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

It's good information. I'm loving this. I'm loving our conversation. I now so I now see why you're a podcast favorite because this is this is good stuff. Um, because you know that um listen, um uh mental health. Um, you know, when I grew up, I thought that, you know, people that had mental health issues or the people that you see walking the street, you know, they're homeless, you know, they're talking to themselves, maybe, you know, their hair is on comb kind of thing. That's who I thought. But you know, since I've been in this space, I know that, you know, mental health could come from, you know, you're not being loved as a child, you know, you got, you know, abused as a child, you got, you know, you went to war, you, you know, you've got PTSD. I mean, there's so many minute things that can cause you stress and cause you to not. It could even be something as simple as someone telling you in school that you'll never amount to anything. And people replay that in their mind for 40 years and and lose stress and sleep. So this information is good that where the research is coming along where people can can get help so that they can have, you know, a decent life and not always be in panic mode and you know, um, and this type of stuff. So this is this is pretty good. All right.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

So and and that's what I uh I said, I know we're probably gonna maybe talk about one point, but the second book I wrote was called Emotional Concussions, exactly those kinds of things. They're not the big T traumas. They're that coach that told you you're never gonna be good enough, the teacher that told you you're not smart enough, the parent that said, you know, you'll never make it, you know, give that whole plan up, right? You're not not gonna make it. Those are emotional concussions, like you said, can keep looping for 40 years and stop people. And you know, and we look at people who are highly successful and we think, well, they mustn't have any problems, they must be fine. But they're dealing. I had a lady come in whose um husband is a professional athlete, but she dealt with a lot of trauma as a child. And so, same kind of thing as my wife. Couldn't understand why I've got all the money, I've got everything going for me, I've got a husband that loves me and children, but I'm not enjoying life. I'm not happy, and and that was becoming from that experience as a child. Wow, and it kept on looping.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

Yeah, and that mind, your mind is is such it's it's it's such a wonderful organ, like you said, you know. Brilliant.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Brilliant. God God created us to heal, right? Created our mind and bodies to heal. And what I say is what's interfering with your ability to heal are these events and experiences that are looping, keeping you in an active state or fight or flight.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

That's all we can call them stuck.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

They're just stuck, they're stuck, they're exactly stuck, they're on constant looping. You know, your computer's spinning, right? That's what it's doing.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Yes, no, and actually that's a good analogy because when the when the when the computer is spinning, it's not doing a darn thing.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

Then what do we do? We shut it down and reboot it, right? That's what we're gonna do with our program.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

That's what we're gonna do. That's what we're gonna do. Reboot it. Shut it down and reboot it. Yeah, all right. So that's a good segue into your book. It's your book is called You Must Be Out of Your Mind. We all need a reboot. So tell us about your book, why you wrote the book, and what's basically the message that you're um sending out with that.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

Uh, the first book was written really about the program and how it was developed. I talk about how my daughter and my wife were living this life. The only solution had been medic, you know, medically, you know, give them prescriptions and medications. And that led me on the search to try to find and what I discovered is that this trauma is what was continually activating their nervous system, which was then creating their issues. So that's why I said we all need a reboot. We got to get you out of that mind, right? We've got to reboot that mind and reset it to its original manufacturing settings, right? All right.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

So where's the plug? Where can I plug up?

SPEAKER_03 43:06

Exactly. Yeah, just need a reboot. And every and like I said, everybody, you know, can benefit from that because, like I said, the highest performing people, um, because when we have this unresolved trauma, not only does it affect the mind, it affects the body, and it actually affects the energy. So I have a great story to share with you. A gentleman, Marco Chicetto. Marco is a uh a marathon runner from Kenya who got a scholarship to the University of Alaska. And he didn't really do very well. Him and his cousin both. His cousin committed suicide. Marco was so affected by that that he tried to take his own life and then passed out in the snow for three days and ended up losing his legs to uh frostbite. So now Marco had to learn how to walk again, let alone run, and then he decided he wanted to continue being American. Runner, so they built him the blades to run on. And so Marco came to see me because they said, We really think this guy is a potential Olympic champion. But he's plateaued. He's not performing higher, no matter how much more training he's getting. We now think it's in his mind. So Marco came to see me, and then nine days later ran in his first marathon and took 15 seconds per mile off his marathon time, which is huge at that level.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Good for you. So you obviously rebooted him.

SPEAKER_03 44:29

Reboot him. And then a few weeks later ran in the Boston Marathon in 2019 and broke the world record. He's now the world record holder. And then a few months later ran the Chicago marathon, broke his own world record by another five minutes and got signed by Nike. And what I explained to Marco is that when we have this unresolved trauma looping, we actually affect the mitochondria in the cell. The actual ATP, the energy of the cell, is also compromised. When we release that trauma, the energy also is released. So I didn't make Marco a better runner. He already was that runner. He just didn't have all the power. And so when you release that extra power, that can be used for healing, can be used for focus, for athletic performance. Right. We all have another gear. And that's really what it is is it get you to that next gear, that next level. Even high performing people can also uh benefit and and reboot and get it to another gear.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

Wow. That's a good story. Yeah, wow. So I'm I'm thinking that's what the coaches do, you know, in order to, you know, I was reading something. Um I don't remember which one, maybe it was, maybe it was um Tom Brady's book, because he has a book on high performance. But um, you know, somewhere along the line, I heard that when a coach is trying to get the best out of his player, he understands that player, he understands his his history. Because in order for you to get them to that next level, you've got to understand what you're dealing with. And that's basically, I mean, the coach is not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but he understands that if this player is not performing, it's because of maybe something in his past or some situation he's dealing with even now, currently, and maybe he will get him the right help. But but that's the way you that's the way that you get peak performance. Yeah, every everything has to be running on all cylinders. That's a new word that I heard. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

No, it's exactly right. And so a good coach will recognize that. And no, you can't coach with one system. If you've got 30 players on your team, you better have 30 different ways to because nobody's experienced the same life.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

Right. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

And so that understanding is actually really the key. It's one of the things that I talk about as well. Understanding that things couldn't have been any different than they were, right? Based on the way your mind filters through your atmospheric conditions.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Okay. All right. So I guess this is a time on the program where you tell us about, because I mean, I'm pretty sure that people are listening here now and watching on TV and saying, wow, um, how can I get some of this TIPP method that is going to reboot me? So tell our listeners how they can connect with you. Um, you know, um, obviously pick up your books. Um, does the book share your the rebooting secrets or they've got to come to you directly?

SPEAKER_03 47:33

Yeah, they can either do it two different ways. If you go to get tip, gettp.com, um, you'll get the information on the program. So you can either do it digitally online. Uh I take you through the whole four-hour program online, or you can come and personally see me for a uh, you know, one-on-one experience, either way, depending on what people want to do. But if you go to get tip.com, and I think they're offering some sort of a promotion for your listeners as well, for slash transform, and I think you get a discount on it for your listeners. So either way, either the online or digital experience or one-on-one with me. And the book basically shares how I came up with the program and does share some you know tips, but you really need to go through the program. The book could certainly give you what a lot of people do is they listen to the book and I have stories about different people who have gone through the program. And people will say, Oh, I when I heard that story, I went, That was me, right? And my wife, so funny, Mirna. When I met my wife and she told me about this trauma she'd experienced, she swore me to secrecy. I could never tell anybody, right? It was again all that shame and guilt. That didn't make sense to me, but I I honored that, right? And now, after she's gone through the program, she'll sit and share it with you all day. She says, now everybody knows her life. Complete opposite, right? But again, there's nothing wrong. Children who have experienced abuse, right, they hold a lot of that in because there's that shame and guilt. Um, this program really helps release all of that. Yes, that is beautiful.

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SPEAKER_03 53:21

Beautiful. Well, it was this, it was the same thing with all my research, Myrna. Every time I turn around, something else just showed up. I said, God's just leading this, right? And they just keep showing up. And and had my wife and daughter not experienced, I wish they never did, but the fact that they did is the only reason I'm doing this because I didn't have that life. I wouldn't have had that reason to do it.

SPEAKER_01 53:44

No, no, you're right. You said you went back to school because of what uh you know, got your PhD and and became an expert on this topic, but I mean, um, your interview is booked over a month ago. I just finished reading this book like last week. So oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Wow, God does work in mysterious ways.

SPEAKER_01 54:03

Exactly. Yes, exactly. So um uh that's amazing. Now we didn't go into, you know, um, we touched on it, we didn't go into the depth of um, you know, what Dr. Perry was talking about, but it's uh it it was my foundation, it was my base so that we can have the conversation that we had today, which was which was a good one.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

Yeah, I think what Dr. Perry and and and Oprah were talking about in that book is basically what uh I call those atmospheric conditions. So if you grew up right in a certain kind of environment, those are your atmospheric conditions that are used to shape the way your mind works.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:43

And so if you've lived if you've yeah, if you so you've lived in these very stormy conditions most of your life, that feels normal. Right. And so you're used to that, and all of a sudden you can change that, right? That's huge for people. And so as long as they're in those dark, stormy conditions, it's gonna affect their health. It absolutely has to.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Yes, yes, your health, your relationships, you know, your joy, your peace, um, everything until you reboot yourself or transform your mind, or whatever we want to call it. Um it takes work, and that's basically it. It doesn't happen automatically, it takes work. I mean, I've had so many conversations in the show. I have my very the interview that's airing right now, it's the negative self-talk from um that happens like you just talked about. Um, you know, you blame yourself, right? Negative self-talk from trauma. Um, you know, somebody does something to you and you feel for some way that you are maybe responsible for it, or maybe you could have done something differently. You know, I had my pastor on here um a couple weeks ago, and we talked about the fixed mindset. Um, and you know, in order to get rid of that fixed mindset, you've got to use like a sledgehammer. But everything needs work. You've got to, you know, we're talking about your program. You're gonna come in and you're gonna do a program. It's not you can't just read the book and get the advice. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta do a program. So yes, if you take anything away from these conversations that we're having, is that if you do not have any joy in your life, if you do not have any peace, you know, I give an example of a you know, a car backfiring and you feel that you're back in Vietnam, or I mean, it could be any trigger. It could be, you know, like Dr. Wood was talking about the the the girl, his client that was um, you know, saw the bomb, or right now we're going through as we're speaking, we're going through this horrendous, horrendous um event where the condo fell down and people while they're sleeping are buried on a rubble. I mean, can you think of what you know the people that were in that that came out and uh the the family members of of these people, the trauma that they're gonna be experiencing. So many people that live in condos now are gonna be afraid to go to bed. It's you know, these these there's these events in life that are going to shape your joy and your peace.

SPEAKER_03 57:22

So exactly. So the key, and if you read all the self-help books, they'll tell you to stay present and be in the moment. But our minds don't naturally work that way, so we have to train it to do that, and that's really what our program does is is basically helps you be able to stay present and in the moment, and that's the best way to lead our most successful and happy and prosperous life.

SPEAKER_01 57:45

So yeah. Well, yeah, everybody now has been talking about mindfulness and meditation, and and um I'm not sure how that relates to to trauma. I know that's how I find my peace. Um, but um, you know, whatever trauma I had, if I had any, it's long removed. But right, right, right. But I do practice my self-care and um, you know, meditation um daily, and you know, my I regulate myself, you know, I didn't even know that's what I was doing, but I regulate myself by walking 5K every day, you know what I mean? That's all part of regulation, you know.

SPEAKER_03 58:25

So absolutely, yes, a lot of those things that you can do to sort of help as well. And then the ultimate tool is to basically get it resolved so that if there is anything that is underlying that rust, right? Let's just get that sanded down and prime it and then paint it.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

Paint it over, right?

SPEAKER_03 58:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 58:45

All right. Well, listen, this has been a wonderful um interview. I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. I learned a few things um that I didn't learn. So my trauma bank or of knowledge is getting is getting um deeper. So as we wrap up, uh, Dr. Wood, um just want to thank you again for coming on the show. Um, thank you for sharing your expertise. I'm hoping that my listeners run out and um you know get your book. And the book is called You Must Be Out of Your Mind. We all need a reboot. And then your audible is called What Are Emotional Concussions, and you explained a few of them and as well get your program. So, any last words before we wrap up?

SPEAKER_03 59:26

No, I certainly appreciate the time and and having the opportunity to communicate this message, you know. And the big message is there's nothing wrong with anybody, everybody's mind is perfectly fine. It's just actually filtering through a whole bunch of these events and experiences, and you just need to reboot.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

I love that. Reboot. All right. Well, listen, um, thank you guys for tuning in to the Transform Your Mind to Transform Your Life radio, podcast, and television show. Um, if you have not done so, please, um, and you're listening to this on iTunes, please subscribe and leave a review. I bring you great quality guests like Dr. Wood every week as we try to transform your mind so that you can transform your life. Until next time, blessings.