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When you go up these, there's these double staircases in the lobby and Colonel Driscoll's paintings right in the middle of the staircases. So I saw what he looked like. We get up to the second level, and there's a uh kind of an open area around a bunch of ballrooms on the perimeter. And I smell cigar smoke. And I mean, this is ornate, crystal chandeliers everywhere, just beautiful, beautiful old decor and everything. And I thought, there is no way they're gonna let somebody smoke inside this hotel, let alone a cigar. That's not gonna happen. So I turned my radar on and I saw Colonel Driscoll's spirit, you know, kind of waltzing across the floor. He was just checking stuff out, and he looked exactly like he looked in that painting. That picture, and he had a cigar. And he had a cigar, and he was smoking his cigar, and he had his spirit. So we we the story goes on. We go around these other ballrooms, and uh we go in this one, and there are these amazing, there were eight of them, gold, gilded mirrors, you know, gold leaf mirrors. And at the top of every one of them was a cameo carved into the wood, the cameo of a woman. And this little cute billman said to me, We think these came from Emperor Maximilian's palace in Mexico City, and we think the cameo is of his wife Carlotta. And I'm hearing in my head, no, it's not, it's his girlfriend, it's his mistress Jocinda. So the the still is talking to you, the spirits were talking to me. And I said to him, Have you ever heard of his mistress Jocinda? And he said, No, and he's going on, and so I just called Carlotta and Jocinda's spirits in, and they showed up in their ball gowns. Oh my gosh, you know, their silk ball gowns with the hoop skirts and dripping in diamonds and jewels and the tiaras and the whole nine yards. And I said, Who are who's the cameo? And Josinda said, It's me.

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Welcome back to the Transform Your Mind, to Transform Your Life radio podcast and television show. I'm your host, Myrnie Young, and sitting in the guest chair today is Julie Ryan, a psychic medium medical, intuitive, and serial entrepreneur. And Julie and I are going to be talking on the topic turning to, sorry, tuning into the unseen, healing, intuition, and the spirit world. Welcome, Julie. Thank you. I'm so thrilled to be with you. I'm so thrilled to have this conversation. I love anything about, you know, intuition in the spirit world and psychic and all that. So it's one of the topics that I have a huge curiosity on. All right. So as we get started, I want to ask you guys a question. Have you ever felt a quiet knowing inside you, a whisper that couldn't be explained by logic? A moment when something told you to pay attention and you didn't know why? Well, what if that voice wasn't random? What if healing, guidance, and connection were always available? If only we learned how to tune in. Julie believes exactly that. Julie Ryan, like I mentioned earlier, is a psychic medium, medical intuitive, inventor, entrepreneur, and the host of the globally streamed podcast acts Julie Ryan. She built companies, designed surgical devices, and at the same time learned how to scan the human body energetically, communicate with spirits, and bring peace to people navigating illness, loss, and uncertainty. Julie calls herself a buffet of psychicness. But what struck me most isn't what she can do, is why she does it. She does it to help people remember who they really are, to soften the fear around debt, to awaken intuition, to remind us that we're not just bodies trying to survive life. We are souls having a human experience. If you've ever questioned what happens when we die, I know we all want to know. Wondered whether your intuition could grow stronger or long for deep healing. This conversation is for you. So take a breath, open your heart and let's transform your mind. All right. So, Julie, you have lived both in the business world and the spiritual realm, founding companies while developing psychic and medical intuitive abilities. What first awakened you to these gifts and how did you learn to trust them?

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Well, first of all, I learned how to do all of this stuff. I didn't have dead people chasing me as a child, or if I did, Murda, I wouldn't have known what to do with that. So I was given a book more than 30 years ago by a friend who gave it to me for my birthday, and it's called Anatomy of the Spirit by Carolyn Mace. PhD. I know her. Okay. And she talked about how she was a medical intuitive. And I thought, well, what the heck is that? I'd never heard that term before. Excuse me. And I was at that time for well for three years, I was in the hospital supply industry. I was inventing and manufacturing surgical devices and selling them globally. And so I was helping people heal, but through their medical providers, through their surgeons and their doctors. And I wanted to know more. And back then we didn't have the internet yet. So I thought, should I go to the library or should I go to a bookstore? And I figured the bookstore might have more information about woo-woo stuff. Woo, by the way, means source in Taoism, which I love. And I think the word woo-woo is fun. So I use it a lot. So I went to this bookstore and I found a book called Hands of Light by Barbara Brennan that was written probably 50 years ago. And she was a former NASA physicist who parlayed very complex quantum physics principles into understandable language for the non-scientific mind. That would be me. And she was talking about how to use energy to help facilitate healing. And again, I wanted to know more. I was being drawn in. I just had this insatiable curiosity about what is this and how does this work and how can I do it? And I called her school and I said, Do you guys have anybody teaching this stuff in my area? And lo and behold, one of her graduates had just opened a school. And so I studied with her for six years. Fast forward a little more than 30 years. I teach what took me six years to learn. Maybe I was a slow learner. I teach it on in online self-paced classes with practice groups. And then I also teach it live in a weekend, the whole buffet of psychicness, which means we can talk to your dead grandma, I can scan your cat, we can do medical uh not diagnosis, but identifications and healings. I'm like a human MRI. I can see inside people's bodies with their permission. I can see broken bones, torn ligaments, spiral infections, bacterial infections, cancer in my mind's eye. And then facilitate healings. Um, we can do past life stuff. We can tell how close to death your loved one is. We can talk to any spirit, whether it's attached to a body or not. We talk to any angel. I mean, you don't have to have known somebody when they were alive. I mean, who do you want to talk to? Elvis, Moses, Mother Teresa, it doesn't matter. And we just get in touch with them. So I teach people from all walks of life. And I think we've had 14 or 15 countries go through my training, people from all those countries. And the only prerequisite is you have to speak English.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Yeah, because that's your major language. Now, wow, I'm very curious. So the first thing I want to circle back on is it's funny that you should say that you didn't have any dead people um chasing you, but because the last the last psychic I spoke to, that's exactly was her experience. I mean, she said she would wake up and she'll find all these people at a head edge of her bed. So what I think you said, and I want to clarify, is that you weren't born with this ability. You learned it. Did I hear that right?

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Everybody's born with the ability. It's a matter of developing and enhancing it. Everybody has the capability. I didn't know it. I hadn't turned mine on because I didn't know anything about it. I knew I knew I was went through 12 years of Catholic school and raised Roman Catholics, so I knew about guardian angels and saints and the Holy Spirit and stuff like that, which I think the Catholics do a really good job of giving us a platform from which to launch. But many people have their abilities already turned on. All children are able to do it. And I have a million stories I can share with you about children. But for me personally, I have no memory of accessing anything like that as a child. Not until I was in my mid-30s and I started studying it.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

Okay, wow. Well, it's really interesting because yeah, before we hit the record button, we were talking about whether I have anything to contribute if I were to come on your show. And where I went to in my mind was the fact that yeah, I have spirit guides and I have intuition and they guide me and they talk to me, and I know that I have a guardian angel and all that. So it's great that you say that that is a launching pad for, but I have never, like you mentioned in your intro, that you can you you're a medical intuitive. You can look at someone's body and see, you know, what disease you can talk to spirits in the past. I can't do that. My skill is just, you know, hearing uh from uh my spirit guides or the Holy Spirit or whoever it is that's that's talking to me and guiding me. So what you're saying is that if someone were to come to your course, you teach them how to turn something that's natural on. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

And I can teach you how to do all of that stuff that I do from the whole buffet of sickness in a weekend. Absolutely. And so, and then I have self-paced online courses that are just communicating with spirit and what happens when somebody dies. Then I've got another one that's medical intuition, identifying medical things, and then also doing energetic healings, and then the whole buffet of psychicness I teach live twice a year, once online in the spring and once in person in Atlanta, Georgia. I always the weekend before Halloween. And I'm all over the world. I know exactly, but but it's a matter of you're already experiencing some of the abilities that everybody has. It's like you can throw a football, but you're not going to be Tom Brady unless you throw it a lot and you practice it. And that and that's that's really how it all works. Uh in my classes, it's 10% technique, it's 90% transfer of energy from me to my students at a super high vibe. And then it's kind of like synchronizing a metronome, and you'll have some technique, but the key, the secret sauce, is the practice groups, and there are multiple ones a week.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

That's amazing. I have never heard this before. I thought that you were actually born with this. I mean, everybody is sorry, yeah. I mean, well, when I say right, we're all born with intuition, which is basically what we're gonna we're the what I mentioned about your gut, and you know, when something was off and we're able to to scan danger and those type of things, but the accessing the spirit world, um yeah, I thought you that was a special gift, as you know, you said you're Catholic, you know, we're born with gifts, that it's a special gift, so it is great that you know it can be taught, and um uh that is it's great.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

And it's a blast too, Myrna. It's fun, and you're already communicating with spirit, you just don't realize it. Everybody is, everybody is that intuition, that gut feeling you have, that's communicating with spirit, but I have maybe thousands a day in our heads, and we don't pay attention to a lot of them. And I think I think intuition has been trained out of a lot of us too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

You also have to quiet the noise in your head in order to um in order to access it, you know. And I um I'm a meditator, and that's basically how I I tune in by quieting my mind and and all that. So that's amazing. Now, um you say that you can turn your abilities on and off at will only with permission. So why what is the ethical boundary? Why is the ethical boundary so important? And what misunderstandings do people have about psychic work?

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Well, I turn my abilities on and off at will, and that's what I teach. You you can meditate for an hour, twirl three times, jump on your left foot and raise your right hand if you want, if that helps you. But I'm I don't have time for that. I'm a businesswoman. Turn it on, turn it off. And so that's what I teach in my classes. Ethical boundaries. I can scan somebody's body, but I won't without their permission because I believe it's unethical to do that. It would be the equivalent of, let's say you had pneumonia and I ran into you in the grocery store and I could hear you come and I said, Girl, what is up? And you say, and my radar's not turned on yet. And you say, Oh, I've had I've had walking pneumonia, I'm I've really been feeling punky, but I'm on the mend. So you're telling me what you want me to know, but I'm not looking at your chest x-ray without your permission. So when people say to me, Can you scan my dad? Can you scan my child? Can you scan my sister? I had a client yesterday and we scanned five other people, including her. But I always ask their permission telepathically. And if they say yes, they I will, and if they say no, I won't. Now, it doesn't mean that all is lost because we can communicate with their spirit telepathically. And again, they're going to tell us what they want us to know, but I don't believe that I'm crossing the boundary of privacy in that situation.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Now, one of the psychics I had on, um, I as you were talking, I remembered the story where she said that she was at a um a party, and I guess she started seeing things with somebody or whatever. And I guess she told them, and then she tells she tells a story how she was locked in the bathroom and there was a whole line outside her door because everybody wanted to know. But what she said is this thing came to her because she with her psychic ability. So, my circle back to you is you say you don't scan somebody's body without them giving you permission, whether it's verbally or through their spirit. Right. But is if you're in front of me, like we're talking right now, I don't know if you can do it over the the airways, but if I'm in front of you, isn't your eye gonna scan me? Whether you tell me or not, are you not gonna see it? How do you how do you stop your body from scanning somebody automatically?

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Because I turn it on and off at will. My radar's not on, so I'm not scanning you. I'm just talking to you in my human capacity. I haven't raised my vibrational level to scan you, and I won't scan you unless you ask me to. So imagine how obnoxious that would be. If I was at a football game with 100,000 people in the in the stadium, and I'm going, oh, that one's got a strep throat, oh, that one's got like a sore knee, that one's got, you know, his back shape.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

But but that's the point. You're not gonna tell them, but you're gonna know.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

I don't because I don't turn my abilities on unless I want to.

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SPEAKER_02 20:05

Now there have been very few times where I'll be led to turn my abilities on. And I'd be happy to share one fun story with you if you'd like.

SPEAKER_04 20:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

I was in Austin, Texas, and I was having lunch at the um, gosh, what's it called? There's a and there's an old annabellum hotel there. I'll think of it. It's like the Dillard or the something like that. And it was um, it was founded by a guy who made us millions of selling cattle to the Confederate Army during during the Civil War. I'll think of his name in a minute. Driscoll, the Driscoll Hotel, Colonel Driscoll.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

I remember that. Have you been there? No, I just I just had a name.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

It's fabulous. So I'm having lunch there by myself and I'm reading in the menu the history of the hotel, and they say, well, they used to have in the late 1800s, they'd have visiting psychics and healers come to their spa. And I thought, ooh, cool, I want to hear more about that. So I after lunch, I asked the concierge if somebody could give me a tour of the hotel. And she said, sure. So this cute little bellman came and was giving me a tour, and and he knew some stuff, but he didn't know a lot. So when you go up these, there's these double staircases in the lobby, and Colonel Driscoll's paintings right in the middle of the staircases. So I saw what he looked like. We get up to the second level, and there's a uh kind of an open area around a bunch of ballrooms on the perimeter, and I smell cigar smoke. And I mean, this is ornate, crystal chandeliers everywhere, just beautiful, beautiful old decor and everything. And I thought, there is no way there. Gonna let somebody smoke inside this hotel, let alone a cigar. That's not gonna happen. So I turned my radar on and I saw Colonel Driscoll's spirit, you know, kind of waltzing across the floor. He was just checking stuff out, and he looked exactly like he looked in that painting. That picture, and he had a cigar, and he had a cigar, and he was smoking his cigar, and he had his spirit. So we we the story goes on. We go around these other ballrooms, and uh we go in this one, and there are these amazing, there were eight of them, gold gilded mirrors, you know, gold leaf mirrors. And at the top of every one of them was a cameo carved into the wood, the cameo of a woman. And this little cute villain said to me, We think these came from Emperor Maximilian's palace in Mexico City, and we think the cameo is of his wife Carlotta. And I'm hearing in my head, no, it's not, it's his girlfriend, it's his mistress Jocinda. So the the still is talking to you, the spirits were talking to me. And I said to him, Have you ever heard of his mistress Jocinda? And he said, No, and he's going on, and so I just called Carlotta and Jocinda's spirits in, and they showed up in their ball gowns. Oh my gosh! You know, their silk ball gowns with the hoop skirts and dripping in diamonds and jewels and the tiaras and the whole nine yards. And I said, Who are who's the cameo? And Josinda said it's me. So fast forward later that afternoon, I went into a store. Some woman said something to me in the parking lot. I started talking to her. She said, Welcome to Austin, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm part of the historic society. I said, Oh, I just was at the Driscoll. She goes, Well, you know, it's haunted. I said, Yeah, I saw spirits in there. I'm a psychic. And she said, What'd you see? And I told her, and she said, I'm a book publisher. Now think about the coincidence of all of this. It wasn't a coincidence. I'm a book publisher. We just put a book about the Drisco Hotel into the printing. It's going to go to press in three days. Would you consider writing an afterword? And I was there on a business trip. And I said, sure. So I did on the way home in the plane the next day. And I got home and I looked up Emperor Maximilian, Carlotta, his wife, and Jocinda. And there's all this historic information about his mistress Jocinda. Now, you know what? We can't make that stuff up. No. So it was published. My afterword was published in that book. So that's a long story that I was supposed to turn my radar on, and the prompt was the cigar smoke of Colonel Driscoll, so I could get that information. I mean, you think about that. And put it in the book. What's the chance of all of that happening? And it's going to press in three days.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Well, a long time ago, um, I learned from Deep Park Troper about something it's called synchronicity, and like everything, nothing is a coincidence. Ever. Right. So you're very right. You were led even to go take lunch at that hotel. What you can even take the story back. What made you decide to go to that hotel for lunch? Good point. You must have been prompted. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Yeah. A friend of mine here in Birmingham said, Well, if you have time, go have lunch at this historic hotel. It's beautiful. You'll love it. Yeah. I never heard of it.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

Right. So it's all, and that's how intuition and spirit talks to you. And that's basically what I tune into. I tune in for instructions like that. And I lay in bed in the morning and I'm tuning in for instructions because I will tell you that I've had some really great instructions that have, you know, supercharged my life for not a word for it. But so I wait for it. And then the other thing is, is that I've learned a night little, you know, that if you get instruction and you don't use it, then you get less and less instructions. So when I get instructions, I use it. So the fact that your friend said you should go to that hotel for lunch. I think you'll like it. And you actually went. Some people say, Who wants to go to a hotel by myself? You know, whatever. You know what I mean? And you just brush it away. And look what became of that.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

And I was led to ask the concierge for a tour.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

And then she said again, you saw the menu, right? And she exactly goes, Well, you know, it's on it. And I said, psychic, I'll let you know what I see. I come back. And I had all these other things that I saw too when it was during my tour. But that one was really profound because it led to the afterward of this book being published. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:51

And and and I think um, you know, in any area, whether it's your psychic or you're in sales, I believe that you need confirmation. And you know, when you see the spirits and you all that, you're you're confirming that you have this gift, you have this ability. Um, so wow, um, that's pretty good. All right. So um uh the other thing that you do, you mentioned it in your introduction, is you um give energetic diagnosis. Um uh so you've scanned thousands of bodies and believe that energetic diagnosis are part of the future of healthcare. What aren't most people surprised to learn about how illness shows up energetically? Now I have some information on this myself, and it's not part of the psychic world. I know that your body is all energy. And in fact, um, a couple of I I had an interview um maybe last month, and the guy was I was so blown away by what he said about energy and the cells and and things like that. So I've actually um he's got a format to help with you know energy in your body, and I've actually started using it. See, I learned from my guests. So I know about energy and illness and the chakras and the energy body and all that. So um uh what can you tell us from your point of view, psychicness and medical intuitive about um uh energy and sickness?

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Well, there's always an emotional component in place before any kind of disease or illness manifests in the body 100% of the time. And it's the most important part of healing because we can fix body parts all day long. But if you're leaking power, because you got an energy breach in the energy-filled membrane, which is the container, it's kind of like imagine a plastic bag that holds the energy that makes up the body and the spirit as I perceive it. If you're leaking power, what's the point? It's kind of like your car's not running, you take it to the mechanic because you need a new radiator, or you get a new radiator and you go to pick it up, but it's got a dead battery. Well, the new radios radiator is not going to help you much if you've got a dead battery and you can't get your car started, right? Same concept. So that's been interesting. Everything can be healed, everything is energy. Nobody ever heals anybody else, ever. No doctor, no medical provider, no shaman, no healer like me. We all heal ourselves. We help you heal yourself. The work that I do, the work that Eastern medicine, western medicine, homeopathic medicine, what we do, is all part of the healing equation to help somebody heal themselves. And as an example of that, Myrna, think about if you had a big cut on your leg and you went to the emergency room. Well, the doctor's gonna stitch it up for you, but the doctor doesn't make your skin grow back. You make your own skin grow back. And so I believe that energy medicine is becoming more and more accepted. As I mentioned, I had foot surgery about six weeks ago, and my surgeon was all about the healing different modalities that I was using, pre-op, in-op, and post-op. And he wanted the websites of the research that showed the efficacy of how it helped me, it will help me heal in half the time and use half the pain meds and half the anesthesia would be needed. And and also he wanted links. And how I thought out about this stuff was these were all guests on my Ask Julie Ryan show. And so I sent him copies, you know, I sent him the links to the interviews. He was really interested. And there were statements that I asked the anesthesiologist to read as he was putting me under anesthesia. It was about an hour and a half surgery, and then there were five statements for him to read as I was coming out of anesthesia, as they were waking me up. And it was really cute because not only the surgeon, but everybody that had taken care of me, the nurse anesthetist that were in there, the nurse that was in there taking care of me during the surgery, they all come in, came in to recovery. And the recovery nurse, I probably have five people say they all want you to know that they read all that stuff you wanted them to read. And they were all really interested in it, and they all wanted my business card. So the zeitgeist is changing. People know that there's research being done that's showing how effective this is in healing, and they're starting to pay attention. And quite frankly, I think a lot of that has to do with the old guards. Some a lot of them are dying off, the ones that wouldn't even listen. And the newer, you know, the younger people are much more willing to listen.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

Yeah, well, it's very interesting. Um, but I never I knew about energy as far as positive energy, and I keep myself in a positive energy space because I'm really talking about manifestation. And then, of course, we know that um uh, you know, if you've if you have negative thoughts, then it transforms into you know negative energy and and your chakras are blocked and disease forms. But I never I never heard the concept about leaking energy until this guy that I was talking about, right? He talked about your your cells are leaking energy and he is, you know, um, so it's very interesting that you say that. Now he he had a formula to energize your cells, right? But what you're saying is that emotion. So can you explain the emotion part? When I hear emotion, I'm thinking of anger, gratitude. So, how does emotion heal us or not heal us?

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Well, the let me let me back up a couple steps first. As I perceive the human body, we're spirits attached to a body having a human experience. We've all heard that a bazillion times, right? I was taught in Catholic school that the spirit or the soul is someplace in the chest area. That's not what I perceive. What I perceive is the spirit's the main part of us, and the bodies inside the space. So you think of the old master's paintings where there's a halo around Jesus or a saying or Buddha or somebody holy, and we say, Oh, they're a holy person. Well, guess what? We all have halos, that's our energy field. It's our, you know, it's our aura, it's all the same thing. So that is contained. The energy that makes up our body and our spirit is contained in what I call the energy field membrane. Reminds me of really thin, stretchy saran wrap, the kind that you get on a tray of chicken breasts from the grocery store. So envision this just as an example, as an analogy. You go to the pet store to buy a goldfish and they're gonna put it in a plastic bag of water in order for you to get it home. So our body represents the fish, right? Our fish represents the body, the water represents our spirit because the body's inside the spirit, and the plastic bag is the energy-filled membrane. If there's a pinhole in that plastic bag, Myrna, for a long time that fish is gonna be fine. However, when enough water drains out, that fish is gonna be in trouble. And that's what happens to the human body. How do we get leaks in the energy-filled membrane? They're caused by an emotional event either in this life or a past life. I'm not looking for the most dramatic or traumatic thing that's happened to you. I'm looking for where did it begin? Because, like psychologists and therapists will say to their clients, now, Myrna, we're gonna talk about your life. And it's gonna be like peeling an onion a layer at a time. I want to get the onion out by the root. One fell swoop, boom, get it out. Let's heal this, let's move on. So that emotional event can be something simple, like somebody called you a poopy face when you were little and it hurts your feelings. And we look at that as adults and we think, well, that was no big deal, but it was a big deal to your three-year-old little self at the time. Or it can be something dramatic. It doesn't matter what it was. My favorite dramatic story happened to a client who lives on Gurney, Guernsey, one of the Northern British Isles. And I saw this scene. I'll go into that terror hole and I'll be shown a scene. I'll be giving information. What's the year? Where did it happen? What's going on? And I saw this scene of her, Myrna, of like a preteen, and there was this big explosion behind her. And I said, Does that mean anything to you? And she said, Yeah, I was a victim of an IRA bombing when I was 12. I still have shrapnel in my thigh. I thought, okay, that's a dramatic thing. She said, I was in the hospital for three months. That caused an energy block. Looks like a little kernel of popcorn to me. And then other life events, emotional energy, piles, piles, piles on top of it till it causes enough pressure, causes a blowout. Always ruptures before any kind of medical condition happens. Always, always, always. So we identify what was the event that caused this energy block. And we always get an answer. If it's past life, we'll get where it was, when it was, what was going on, we'll correlate it with what's happening in their current life. There's always a connection. Soon as we illuminate it, it eradicates it. Energy-filled membrane heals, body goes back to working on full power, helps the body regain and maintain health. I have never seen one rupture, and I've done this tens of thousands of times over the years. I've never seen one rupture. I'm not saying it can't, but I've just never seen it, you know, when I go back in and scan somebody. So it's really fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

Yeah, I'm glad I asked the question because I'm sitting here when you're talking about emotion, I'm thinking, okay, I got angry and I'm leaking. Or, you know, I forgot to be grateful and I'm leaking. So, but you're talking about, yes, you're talking about it's being energy stuff, right? If you're not talking about emotion, right? Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Yeah, it's emotional. Yeah, it can be something benign. It can, and and it the most interesting thing about this, Myrna, is that when it's this lifetime, and I'll say to somebody, okay, it's 1977. They know 99% of them know instantly, okay. We moved, I had to go to a new school. I was entering the fifth grade, it was awful. There were mean girls there, yeah, you know, or my parents got divorced, or my grandfather died, or you know, I got my heart broken by my first boyfriend. They know, and past lives are so much fun because we'll get where it was when it was and what happened, and then they'll bring a semblance of that script forward through multiple lifetimes. And oftentimes we'll get information that we can validate with historic documentation online. And again, I always say, you can't make this stuff up.

SPEAKER_03 38:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's a good segue into our their conversation about debt. So you have, um, of course, you're being able to to go into people's past lives. You're seeing spirits, you know, coming forward and talking to you and all that. So, I mean, in your world, we never die, because spirits are, you know, I believe that too, that um we never die, we just um we just transition. So you teach 12 phases of transition, a peaceful and expansive way of debt. Um, so can you talk about that? Um, what are these phases of transition and how has understanding this changed the way you personally live, love, and face fear?

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Well, it's changed it because we're all we all go to heaven. There was a movie out in the 1980s called All Dogs Go to Heaven. Well, all people go to heaven too. Even the most awful people you can think of. You're all even know how they were Catholic. Oh how, no how, and I got popes, dead popes going. You know the story, so you need to teach the world. I'll tell you that story in a minute. But the most awful person you can think of, you know, most people our generation would go, Hitler. Hitler burning in hell for eternity. That was a role Hitler played in that lifetime. All spirits are pure love. That's a big concept to wrap our heads around because we've been so inundated, heaven and hell. My priest at my parish one time from the pulpit said, Wouldn't it be nice if people, if somebody really could tell us when we die, if we fly or we fry? I said, I'm stealing that line. He goes, Go ahead. So, what happens is we're all surrounded by angels. We're all surrounded by the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets as we're transitioning, and they're all waiting for us when we get beyond the pearly gates. And I can describe that to you. The important thing to remember with this is there's university-based research that shows that 90% of people see the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets as they're transitioning. 90%.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

So when we think grandma, they're not dead yet, but they're on the way when they're dying.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

Okay, and we think, oh, grandma's hallucinating because she's on morphine from the hospice people because she's talking to her dead mother who's been dead for 80 years. No, grandma really can see her dead mother's spirit, and she's able to communicate with them. So, how this all came about was my own mother was dying unexpectedly in 2002. And I had been studying Woo Woo for about 10 years at that point. I'd never been around anybody at the end of their life before. And so I was with her, and my heart, I felt like the Lady of Justice statue, because on one side my heart was breaking because my mother was dying. On the other side, I was seeing all this glorious stuff going on with angels and spirits of people that I hadn't thought of in 30 years since they died, and pet spirits that we'd had when we were kids, like our dogs and our guinea pig, and these spirits were all in the realm. I'm going, holy Moses, am I hallucinating? No, I wasn't. So I watched it all unfold, and that's how I came up with the 12 phases, which I'll describe in a moment. And since that time, I'd seen many other ones. So a couple of years after my mom had passed, I was with my mentor and she was doing a healing on me. And when I'm having a healing done, my deceased loved ones line the side of the table, and they're all participating in the healing. Even my little dog Katie, who's on her back hind legs, her little paws are up on the table, her spirit. And so one day, Myrna, this spirit of this dead pope, walked in and he had his Pope hat on and his shepherd's rod. And I said, Well, hello, who are you? And he said, I'm Clement. And I said, Oh, great. I'm so sorry. I've never heard of a Pope Clement. And he laughed and he said, Well, I was number six. I said, Okay, great. How may I help you? And he said, You're supposed to teach the world what happens when somebody dies because it's been so bastardized and everybody's so afraid, and there's nothing to be afraid of, and you know it because I can see it. Then I said, Thank you so much for that vote of confidence. But you see, I'm a businesswoman, and if I do that, people will think I'm nuts. So I'm really not interested, but thanks for stopping by. He goes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just everything you've done in your business life has prepared you for this. You just need to get on with it because people are too afraid and it's ridiculous, and you know it. I thought, okay, fine. So he leaves. Probably 15 minutes later, I go to get my car to leave. And I just for kicks looked him up on my phone. Pope Clement. Sixth. It turns out this guy was in office during the Black Plague when he's best known for his prayers for the dying and his prayers for the dead, because two-thirds of Europe died during the Black Plague. And I thought, okay, Ryan, you can't make that up. And so he prodded me for a few years. I'm like, I'm not doing it. I'm not. I, you know. So you mean he came back? Oh, he's around all the time. No, I'm not doing it. No, it's gonna people, it's gonna hurt my businesses. No, I'm not doing it. So I already mentioned the priest from the pulpit one Sunday says, wouldn't it be nice if somebody could tell us? And I'm between my husband and my son, and I'm getting elbowed and I'm going, God, really from the pulpit, you're giving me this grief about daddy, you know, teaching people this. And then the final straw was I said, okay, well, I'll write a book, I'll put up a website. So we put up askjulyrion.com. I thought, something's gonna happen and it's gonna blow back on me. So I was giving at that Austin trip, I was giving a talk at a conference down there of a bunch of C-suite executives, primarily men. So I gave my talk, the end of my talk, business talk. This guy comes up with his iPad open to askJulyRyan.com. And he said, Is this you? Well, you know, there's a big picture of me on the front page. And I said, I'm in my head, I'm going, ah, and I said, Well, yes, it is. And I had a smile on my face. So he said, Can we sit together at lunch? I want to know more about this. And um, and I smiled and I said, sure, that'd be great. And in my head, I'm thinking, Great, I'll get pummeled for an hour about this at lunch. Long story short, I sat at a table of eight at lunch, seven men and me, all they wanted to talk about was woo-woo and spirituality. They didn't want to talk about the conference, they didn't want to talk about business, they didn't want to talk about what I covered in my talk. And I said, Okay, your website say you're a psychic, yeah, psychic and psychic media, yeah, and medical intuitive and medium. Okay, yeah, okay. Yeah, so that was the final validation that I needed to say, okay, God, I'm gonna come out of the closet big time on this, and whatever happens is gonna happen. And the rest is history. Here we are.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

You know, God never sends you down the wrong path. You should know that.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

Yeah, if you're odd, then it's gonna work out. But that was a big leap, you know, to go from you know, being a being a serial entrepreneur who's founded nine companies and five industries to okay, now I'm a psychic medium and medical intuitive. Right. I didn't want it affecting my companies and my employees and all of that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

Right, right, right. Okay, so let's get into the what happens when we die.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

So the spirit and the body starts separate. The spirit hangs on to the top of the head, looks like a cartoon speech bubble. And the first person, the first spirit to show up is always the maternal spirit, the person, the woman who raised them, whether that be the birth mother, the adopted mother, the grandmother, the whoever, it's the woman that raised them. Let's say, for conversation's sake, our patient is in a bed, right? So the mother's spirit shows in up first, the paternal spirit shows up next. If I was dying, my dad's deceased, my dad's spirit was there. If my dad was still alive, it would be my maternal grandfather. It's always on the maternal line, which was interesting. Because there are a lot of cultures where somebody's not considered like a Jew unless the birth mother is a Jew, right? And there's cultures where it's that maternal line that's creating to your point earlier when you were starting the show. So then it's the maternal spirit that runs the show from the spirit world. She brings in the angels, she brings in the other deceased loved ones and pets. And these angels, Myrna looked to me like I was taught they look big wings, you know, white gown, rope belt, bare feet. Is that what angels really look like? That's what they look like to me. But somebody that's growing up in an indigenous culture in the middle of the Amazon may see angel energy as just a blob of purple fog. Spirits are always going to show up in a way that we can recognize who they are based on our own human frame of reference. Then the angels show up, and then all these spirits show up, and it's lots of deceased loved ones, it's people from all lifetimes of the person who's dying, like Renaissance dressed people, cavemen dressed people, 1960s go-go boots and mini skirts dressed people. It's really interesting. And I'll and I'll be able to describe what some of these people look like. And the family with whom I'm working will say, Oh, well, yeah, that's Grandma Molly, and that's you know, whoever. I was working with a woman a couple of days ago who whose husband is dying. And I think he was in like phase seven or eight. And I said, Okay, there are dogs and cats in the room, but there are giraffes and elephants and zebras. And I said, I've never seen Did he come from Africa? Well, I saw the giraffes first because they were so tall. And she said, Well, that makes total sense because he worked for the Peace Corps for 10 years in Africa.

SPEAKER_03 49:38

Yes, exactly. Yeah, yes, we're in Africa, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:41

Yeah, yeah. So there's that, and then as the person's getting closer to death, that circle of angels that's anchored at the feet by the parental spirits starts to open into a horseshoe and is eventually a straight line across the foot of the bed. Couple of nuances. Number one, about phase six, spirit bubble is still attached to the top of the head. There are two additional angels that show up on either side of the spirit bubble. And about phase nine, between nine and ten, Myrna, their wings start to move. When I first saw this with my mother, I thought, hmm, it's gonna be interesting. I have no clue what's gonna happen next, but I know they're playing a role, and it reminded me of a giant owl, slow, rhythmic movement, silent, it's slow, it was very graceful. I have goosebumps telling you about it. And what happened over time was their movement created a vortex above my mother's head, and it felt like being in a car wash when they turned the dryer on at the end and sucking all the water off your car. And and that is exactly how my mother's spirit separated from went up in the vortex.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 50:57

And then those angels escorted her to heaven. So when I was writing Angelica Tennance, my book about all of this, which we'll give you a free copy. Stay tuned and we'll tell you how you can get a free copy. Everybody listening and watching, I um just did an internet search on owl wings vortex. What I found out was there's this aeronautical engineering phenomenon called the wingtip vortex, which is how the air goes over and under wings and it causes a vortex that causes lift. Every jet, every plane, every bird, every bug, everything that flies has lift from this wingtip vortex. And I thought, good heavens, these angels' wings are doing this. I can see it, I can feel it, I can hear it. And it's causing my mother's spirit to lift up through this vortex. Furthermore, after my mother's funeral, there's a prayer said at the end of every Catholic funeral called In Paradisum. And it talks about how the angels and your loved ones will greet you and lead you into paradise. And I thought, all right, that's what I saw happen with my mother three days ago. So when I was writing angelic attendance again, I just researched that and I wanted to find out where that originated. And what I learned was it began as a fifth century Gregorian chant. So I have to believe that maybe it took till the fifth century till somebody was well educated enough that they could read and write. And certainly back then those people were men who were monks living in synagogues and in um monasteries, and they were the scribes. So I believe everybody's been able to see this stuff since the beginning of time. And perhaps it just took till the fifth century till somebody, you know, could read and write and write it down because that was such a revelation. I'd heard that prayer so many times over my life, Myrna, and I thought, whoa, I really understand it now because I just witnessed it with my mother's death. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 53:07

So is that why um most people are not afraid to die because they're greeted during the transition from loved ones and love? I mean, some people have talked about near dead experience and they talk about the going into something that's really beautiful. They don't talk about spirits, but they talk about it's so beautiful that they don't want to come back. And then somebody says it's not your time, that's why they come back. Right. So, in your experience, um, does everybody anybody ever go kicking and screaming into debt or because the transition is so beautiful that they in you know, go willingly? That's the question, really.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

I think a lot of people are afraid, and that's why I was led to write angelic attendance, because I think most of us are afraid, especially on our transition. Yeah, we're afraid. We're like, oh, we've seen ghosts and we've seen other movies where you know, is the like angel of death gonna be showing up in a black robe with a pitchfork or something?

SPEAKER_03 54:12

Right, right, right, right. Or I get thrown into hell and I burn each other. Yeah, but that's in the Bible, I think.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

But you gotta remember Hades in the Bible, and remember how many times the Bible's been translated. And I am no Bible scholar by any means, but Hades was a leper colony in the middle of the desert. That's where people went when they sinned, when they did bad things. We're gonna banish you to the fiery pit of Hades, right?

SPEAKER_03 54:42

Okay, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

So so I think you've got to you gotta keep that in perspective too, with but this is a good message.

SPEAKER_03 54:51

There's no hell. I mean, I that's a really good message. If you're gonna if you're gonna share positivity and you're gonna share, you know, life. I mean, that's a good message. Regardless of how bad you are, you still go to heaven.

SPEAKER_02 55:05

Wow. The near-death experiences are really interesting, and I know you know there are a lot of people that have done research on that too, and the commonalities are amazing. I've had several near-death experiencers on my show. That's different from the 12 phases of transition. The near-death experience is like a preview of a different reality. Okay, the 12 phases of transition is when you actually transition and you don't come back in this lifetime, so it's they're they're not the same thing, okay.

SPEAKER_03 55:39

Yeah, okay, so different experiences.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

There are some nuances, like near-death experience. People will say they went through a tunnel, and so, but they're being shown like little snippets for the people who are very afraid to die, and there are a lot of them. We we do this exercise called the walk to heaven, which is a dress rehearsal of what's gonna happen as their spirit separates from their body, and everybody, and I've done this thousands and thousands of times, and so of my graduates, we walk through the pearly gates, which by the way, I've never seen Saint Peter out front with a clipboard going, Yeah, you're allowed in. No, you gotta go burn for eternity. Don't happen. Heaven looks to me like a plasma wall, brilliant, yellowish, whitish light. You pass through it, there's no trace. You come back out, no trace. But as soon as the person goes into heaven, and I have helped people with the angels get them to heaven when they actually pass. My younger sister was one of those people. Excuse me, there's this cheer that goes up from all of the spirits that were in the room with the person, and they've it's like a magic trick, then they're on the other side of the pearly gates, and it's like somebody scored a touchdown in a stadium of 100,000 fans.

SPEAKER_03 57:04

And it's they welcome them with cheers. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 57:07

And um, so it's really fun. The other important thing about the the 12 phases of transition is everybody goes through them, regardless of whether they die instantly, like in the case of a homicide or suicide, or whether they die over a prolonged period of time, days, weeks, months, even years, because time doesn't exist in the spirit world. Time is a human creation. And so somebody going through the 12 phases, it may not even be a nanosecond in our time frame of reference. So it's important to remember that too. Well, I just had an uncle that died.

SPEAKER_03 57:48

Um when did he die? When did he die? He died in November, right? And um, he had cancer, and you know, he was in bed and can't walk and stuff like that. And when you were talking, I remembered something that he one morning he said to his wife, I'm dead. And she says, Well, you can't be dead, you're talking to me. But as you were talking, I said to myself, um uh, you know, maybe his mother came to visit him and he thought that he was dead because he's talking to her or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

Yeah, good point. Good point. So I had a fun, I had a fun one yesterday. We were talking, my client and I were talking with her mom's spirit in heaven. And uh, spirit communication is so much fun because you never know what they're gonna say. I mean, you can't control them when they're alive, you can't control anybody else when they're dead either. Or spirit. And so she's showing me those icing roses on a cake, like a birthday cake, you know, that's just she showed me like blue roses and yellow roses and green roses and pink roses, and then she said, but my favorite were the white roses where they had the dusting sugar on them, where it made them sparkly. Because she said, Because those were crunchy roses. So I said to my client, I said, Does that mean anything to you? She said, My mother's favorite food group was birthday cake. And I think I'm a big family, we always were celebrating somebody's birthday, and then she went on to tell me, Myrna, that her mom's name was Rose.

SPEAKER_03 59:21

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 59:23

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_03 59:24

So they keep their passion in the spirit world.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

Well, not necessarily, they're gonna show us things to let us know it's really them.

SPEAKER_03 59:33

It's really them. Oh, okay, all right. So, right, yeah, right. Wow, wow. Well, this conversation was really joyful for me, very interesting. So, um uh, so let's tell our listeners now um how they can connect with you, talk about your podcast, your website, social media handles. And yes, um uh we're gonna be offering our listeners a free gift. So you tell us about that right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

Yeah, anybody that that wants a copy of Angelic Attendance, what really happens as we transition from this life into the next, and it comes with illustrations of what the different transition phases look like, just go to julieangift.com, julyriangift.com, and we'll send you a free digital and audiobook uh download. And we also have it in Spanish if anybody prefers it in Spanish. So that's how to get the free book. You can also get it on my website, ask JulieRyan.com. And everything's Ask Julie Ryan, my YouTube channels, my social media, my podcast is on all the podcast networks. And uh just look up Ask Julie Ryan and you'll find me.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:49

Yeah, I like it when everybody is, you know, people use the same word everywhere so that um uh everybody can find them. It's great marketing. So um uh yeah, so this this was great. I learned a few things from you, Julie. And um uh yes, I love the information about the the analogy you give with a goldfish and the water and the bag. That was beautiful because that was perfect. Everybody can actually, you know, understand that. Um, yeah, I learned I learned quite a bit from you, not the usual um psychic um conversations that I've had or medical intuitive conversations. You took it a little deeper. Um uh so that's great. And the the phases of death are this is actually the first time I've heard it. So um new information for me. So as we close out, right? I have a little out throw here. Um, what if the answers that you've been searching for were already inside of you? What if healing didn't begin in a hospital room but in awareness? What if fear loosens its grip the moment you understood you were more than your physical body? Julie reminded us today that intuition isn't reserved for a few. It's a skill that we can develop and that we're born with, right? That death is not something to dread, but a transition filled with peace. Your loved ones are there welcoming you. And there is a uh a cheer when you get there. That love, guidance, and connection exist on both sides of this life. And maybe, just maybe, the greatest transformation happens when we stop trying to control everything and start listening to our guides, to our intuition. And if if this episode stirred something in you, sit with it, journal about it, pay attention to the nudges. And remember, growth doesn't always arrive loudly, sometimes it comes in a whisper. So I want to thank you for spending this time with me and Julie on the Transform Your Mind radio podcast and television show. And if this conversation blessed you, please share it with someone who needs hope today. And be sure to check the show notes to connect with Julie and receive her free gift. I will have it bowed on the show notes on the podcast and on my website, which is myhopes.us, go there and you'll get the link. So until next time, stay open, stay curious, and keep transforming your mind. My mind was blown today, my mind was transformed today. I think my biggest takeaway is that there's no hell. So, you know, I I love that that there's no hell. You don't burn in eternity, everybody goes to heaven.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

So, Julie, um any last words before we just a just a delight to get to have this conversation with you today. And I look forward to having you on my show, my Ask Julie Ryan show. And and uh we'll just continue the conversation and have a ball over there too.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

I know, I know. Like I've got it, I've got to bring it. I've got to deep, deep, deep into my um uh my all the all the all the things that I've learned um through intuition. And um, yeah, I know I've got a spiritual base. So I can I can lend to the conversation. So yeah, so thank you for the invite. Thank you so much for being on the show, Julie. Thank you guys for watching. I hope you learned as much as me today. And definitely pick up a copy of Julie's book and listen to her show. If this is a space that you want to learn more of, and if there's one thing that you want to take away, is that everything can be learned. You don't have to be born with it. You can learn it and um heal yourself. So thanks for tuning in. Thanks for being on the show, Julie. Until next time. Namaste. Bye, everybody.