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SPEAKER_01 1:46

So um really it's look, I would say through very heightened awareness. Like I was, you know, kind of born with these very intense arrays of like, you know, I just born with very um, you know, intense ESP, so to speak. And that's kind of, you know, something that I've always had since birth. But to be honest, like so much of my life I've been living in it like unconsciously until there was a real point where I kind of awakened into it. It was so interesting. It was around um the time of my divorce when my ex left me and I had this um this dream that I was being killed, and it was like it was so real. I felt like I you wouldn't know the difference between awake and asleep is how real it felt. And it was like something about I got killed, like winded, like I don't know, strangulated or something. Um, and as I was dying, as I crossed over from death, it's like I woke up and I went, that wasn't a dream. And it was like when I woke up, it was like, you know, I'm I've been asleep and now I'm awake kind of thing. It was like all of a sudden I was conscious, like very, very aware of myself, my abilities, um, just this real heightened awareness and real, you know, consciously aware of all of that.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

Welcome to the Transform Your Mind Podcast, where we dive deep into thoughts, beliefs, and experiences that shape our lives, and more importantly, how to transform them. I'm your host, Life Coach Raining Young, and today's episode is one that will stretch your mind and touch your soul. What if everything you've been taught about who you are is only a fraction of the truth? What if the intelligence, healing, and connection you've been searching for already exists within you? Today we're joined by a remarkable guest, Sarah Marks, who has journeyed from unimaginable trauma to profound awakening. After surviving a deeply painful childhood marked by abuse and human trafficking, she shut down for years with PTSD only to re-emerge with extraordinary insight into human consciousness, spirituality, and what it truly means to be alive. She's now exploring Ive that we as human beings are more than just flesh and bone, that our DNA may function like a biological internet, connecting us to a higher intelligence, a greater source, and even to each other. In this conversation, we're diving into healing, awakening, intuition, and powerful intersection between science and spirituality. If you ever felt disconnected, if you ever questioned your purpose, or if you're ready to tap into a deeper level of awareness, this episode is for you. Welcome, Sarah.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Thank you. Hello, nice to be here.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Yes, y'all. And Sarah is calling in all the way from Australia. Good morning here, yes. Um, right, and you can tell that she's just woke up. You know, it's four o'clock there.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

Yeah, she looks dual, like if she'd just come out of the sun. Oh, bless you. You you're kind. Yes, yes. I'm just sharing what I see. If you guys are watching a video, you'll see what I see. So it's amazing. All right, Sarah. So let's get into this conversation. It's going to be definitely a stimulating conversation. So um, want to start off with your story. Let's set the table. Your story begins with very deep trauma. Can you share what exactly that chapter in your life was like?

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Um actually, to be honest, I felt like the real damage I felt in life was later through time. I think what's really interesting with children is just that you don't really question things when you're young. You don't question um an adult, an authority figure. And I think children are very accepting of what is, you know, which is, you know, obviously what's so beautiful about them, but also really difficult in a situation like that with abuse. And I I know how many countless people I've spoken to, and same kind of thing, you know, it happens all the time where when a child's being abused, they don't actually they don't come out and talk about it in on many, you know, in many occasions. And in situations like that, you know, it's like I know what I did was I kind of internalized it. So in one sense, I was very, very, very vivacious. Like I was kind of this little performer kid, you know, like absolutely like would say what I was thinking kind of thing, very, you know, outgoing. Um, I love performing when I was young. So I had, you know, really happy memories of my childhood in that sense, of um, with my friends and and loving kinder and loving school. But then there was another side of it where I was, interestingly enough, looking back on it now, um, and it's obvious to see, and even teachers and things spoke up, but no one put the pieces together, you know, of exactly how bad it was and what was going on, because I wasn't actually, you know, um openly talking about it. But so in one sense it was, you know, I've got happy memories, but in another sense it was very shut down and very dark, um, very dark experience for me. Um, it was even the nature of the abuse that I endured that was, you know, um, I think kind of a bit perverse, a bit sadistic in its nature. So, you know, there was a very, it was very contrasted childhood in that sense, you know. But there's so much that I've learned from that that I've been able to kind of share. And, you know, red flags and things that you see that's very difficult to um, and especially back then, you know, when I was a kid when this was happening, we're talking like this was the 80s and this was the early 90s, and we didn't know what post-traumatic stress was back then. It wasn't discussed, it was very taboo, there was a lot more things going on. I think, you know, we just have so much more awareness now. But I think that's when I noticed my personality. I think that's when I developed a lot of, you know, um there was a lot of potholes, a lot of things in my personality, like, you know, insecurities and things that developed over those first seven years. Absolutely. So it was very contrasted.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

Okay. So let's go a little deeper. Um, what was your trauma? Because you know, I I was sexually abused as a child, and that's one of the abuse that people don't talk about. So let's ask the direct question. Was your abuse sexual in nature?

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yes, yeah. It was um, it was physical, it was sexual, and it was also gaslighting. So after it was done, I was it was it was almost like it was twisted around onto me, and I was told, you're imagining it, you know, this didn't happen, what are you talking about, kind of thing. And I gotta tell you, when you're really young, especially zero to two, and for me, it started um when I was in diapers around two. Wow. Um yeah, and it's it's uh it's taken years and years and years as well because so much of it was implicit memory. And since speaking to specialists, I found out that I actually believe it or not, a lot of the time, many people don't start recalling these early childhood memories, dissociative memory loss till their 60s. So for me, it was in my 30s. I kind of felt like, okay, I think it's the best of the worst. Um I'm grateful that I wasn't older, that I've been able to start recalling it, but it's extremely traumatic, you know, at the same time as well.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

Yeah, I had a guest on the show once that um said that she was sexually abused at three and she blocked it. And uh she went into the world of promiscuity and and and and you know, I think um Yeah, which is which is so understandable.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Yeah, because right.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

So she said that one day she was having one of these sexual experiences, and that's when it came back to her, um, because she blocked it. And I guess maybe your mind maybe thought, okay, this is something I've done before and uh put it together.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

But yeah, it's um yeah, a lot of the time that happens with memory recall when you've got dissociative memory loss, it can be a really like a trigger exactly like that, like something like you your brain just goes, hang on, all it takes is for it to just have that recall, link it to that experience, you know, um, neuroplasticity and whatnot. And that's it, it can just come back instantaneously after years and years and years of you know laying dormant as you know, kind of implicit memory or something like that. Sometimes it can just re-emerge very clearly. So, how did years come back gradually or like suddenly? Um because there were so many of them. That's the problem, that's the problem. I know, I don't know. I've learned how to laugh about it because I just feel like my gosh. Um, there's there was so many of them. That's why it's been it's been gradual over time. It's like it's it started, it was, it's almost um, and it's come back differently. Sometimes it's been something, it's been a dream. I've had a dream, for example, and I've gone, oh, I've woken up and known immediately my body's just gone, no, no, no, like, whoa, you know, I remember this, I remember this. Um, and sometimes it's come to me very clearly when I'm awake, uh, which is most of the time, it's I've actually recalled it, and it's just been out of the blue. I've never understood that how apnesia works. It's cloudy, it's cloudy, it's cloudy, and it's so frustrating because you sit there going, Oh, it's like something happened, but it's foggy, you know? And sometimes it starts coming up and you feel it, but it's foggy, it's foggy, and it and it can be so frustrating. And you're like, hang on a minute, something, what is this? What is this? What is this?

SPEAKER_02 12:22

It's it's it's almost like when you're um uh you have um uh amnesia, I think that's how it comes back. So it's almost similar to amnesia, right? Wow, wow, wow, wow.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

It is, it's such a I've had exactly that process like amnesia, where it's it's been different, sometimes it's just out of the blue, so crystal clear, and it just I've had these triggers. And I and um actually, um, when I was doing EMDR therapy, um, I think you guys that it's kind of big in the US as well, emdr by any chance with the eyes. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. I always call it E.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

You're saying A or you're saying E. E. Right, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Yep, yep, right. So I was doing that. I was, and it was just like, oh my gosh. I they would make, you know, always those kind of hypnosis type things. Like I I was doing EMDR and my being just went right into the jugular, you know, of experiences. And I it actually really traumatized me on those occasions. I I triggered something shocking. Um, so much so I went to the bottle shop and got alcohol in one of those sessions and went, that's it, I'm done, I can't do this. Like I absolutely snapped, like the trauma was so intense with me and just this terror. Like, you know, the nature of it was so extreme that it's like, yeah, when I when I was first recalling, I went through a big period where I couldn't handle feeling. Um, and so the, you know, my life just spiraled out of control. Um it has through its years, it's like first I had an eating disorder, then it was like um really hitting the alcohol very hard after my divorce. It was very, very intense binge drinking that carried on for a very long time. Um, all these kinds of things, you know, because I could like just the extent and backlog of the trauma is just so bad. And it's like I've and the only way out of it was to do so much research, honestly, and just never, never, never like give up on myself, just constantly, you know, trying to learn, evolve how many different therapists I've seen and different healing modules I've worked with is like intense. I've I've tried a lot of things, but I think people and now you're helping others.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

So um I I raised I raised my hand to you. That's amazing. Um, the work that you've done. You know, you didn't continue going to the bottle. I like what you said. You went to the bottle shop. We called it the liquor store here.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

We call it the the bottle shop here, and I and I ran there.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Funnily enough, I mean you funnily enough, it happened to so many people that don't get through those things, and you know, and and they and they end up dying because they don't see the work that you do. So I think I almost did as well.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Yeah, I almost did as well. I had an NDE experience um at 20. So it was like, you know, I I had another, and this is this is probably what triggered me. I had another situation when I was working in Europe and I had something put in my drink, and I had a very bad experience um with some people in the industry that I was working in at the time. And I kind of almost died in itself from that experience. So what happened was um just even that drink spiked kind of thing. It like it, it's like it triggered something. You know how you were saying that girl had that memory recall when she was having a sexual experience. It was like for me, it was that drink spiked that was a big trigger for me. It's but I didn't, but it was so bad that it was like I'm going, this has triggered something, but I don't know what it's triggered, but I feel really dark now. And I just went really down this horrible, horrible, horrible black spiral. The doctors were just giving me pills, and I was just going harder and harder on the pills because I was just wanting to feel numb and I and I'm I've got a very strong kind of body. Um, I've always been built that way. So it's like I can handle a lot. And I think looking back on it as well, because of the high level of cortisol that I was always in, because my nervous system was stuck constantly. So I was just going harder and harder, and I just until one day I was actually just, you know, I remember just being on the balcony having a coffee kind of thing during the day. And I'm like, oh, you know, I feel a bit off kind of thing. And my partner at the time is like, yeah, no, that's not cool. And I'm like, no, no, I'm imagining it. I'm just being dramatic, nothing's wrong, kind of thing. And then before I know it, he's like, no, that's it. I'm taking you to the hospital. I'm on the floor, get to the hospital. I just collapsed as soon as we entered, and I just remember all these nurses running towards me and putting me on a bed, and they're saying, we can't even get a needle into her, like, you know, we it was it was full on. And it was like I was going into this cardiac arrest, and it was so fast. Like one minute I'm on the balcony, the next minute I'm in this bed, and it was so surreal. I didn't, it I felt like I was out of my body watching myself. It didn't feel real at all. And then all of a sudden, I go from that to just this, I feel like I've been catapulted into space and this extreme peace and beauty. Just that is absolutely beautiful. Yeah, a near-dead experience. Yes. And then and but it was so fast, it was like they just didn't take it. Was like I it was I felt like I was boomeranged. It was like, hey, this is beautiful. And then I opened my eyes. Like it was so they're like, no, you don't. You're coming back, girl.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

We're not ready for you yet. We have some work for you to do here and hurt. So you need to go out.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

I couldn't believe it. I so then I just I opened my eyes, and there's all this thing in my mouth, and my and there's I'm in this, you know, little unit, and my being went, and my body went into shock, and I went, What the hell? Like, what is this? So I'm kind of like taking the things, I'm trying to get this thing out of my throat.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

And all these alarms are going off, and the nurses are running in, and they're like, ah, no, don't do that, don't do that. That's dangerous. It sounds really interesting. And I just kept saying, you know, um, you vou re uno from uh is it fumar or from saying, I just feel like a cigarette. I just feel like a cigarette back then I used to smoke. This was a long time ago. And um and I just kept saying, Hey, I just I just I just need a cigarette. And they're like, you can't have a cigarette, you're in intensive care. Yeah. Wow. And yet my being, it was just because it was just such a high level of shock. It's it's like your body doesn't, you know, it's gone into a coma. Apparently, I'd been in a coma for a day. They'd been able to induce me into a coma. Um, they I think they said they they lost me briefly and they were able to get me into a coma, they were able to induce it. And um, so you know, your body just goes, What has happened? Because all you told them is you feel a little, oh, that is a mess. That's it, that's it. And then I went from that to that, and that's when I was like, okay, okay, clearly the classical medical system and all of that, this isn't working for me because this is just this has gone horribly wrong. I'm alive. I remember thinking, okay, I'm just gonna try a different approach that's a little bit calmer, a bit nicer. That's kind of when I got into holistic health, actually. Like, that's when I started yoga.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

And I saw a naturopath, and yeah, it was even talking about transcendence and unlocking the intelligence within you.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

But I want to go back to your school before we get into the I I would love to say that was the transcendence, but trust me, it's been rocky since then as well.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Well, it was the start of it, it was the start of the journey. Let's talk about the um the the human trafficking. So you had you know sexual abuse as a child. How did we get into the human trafficking? Are you looking for a simple way to support healthy circulation, energy, brain function, and heart health? One of the most important molecules in the body is nitric oxide. But as we age, our ability to produce it declines. That's why I'm excited to share N101 nitric oxide with you. N101 combines powerful nitric oxide supporting ingredients, including concentrated beetroot and convenient nitric oxide lozenges designed to help boost your body's natural nitric oxide production. I've been using the lozenges and beetroot supplement in my water for some months, and I can report improved energy, better workouts, and enhanced circulation. If you're interested in optimizing your health and longevity, I encourage you to check out N101 and experience the benefits for yourself. Transform your mind listeners can receive 10% off with coupon code TRANSF. To learn more about N101 nitric oxide and get my special link, simply click the link in the show notes.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

Yeah, that's How it pinnacled, actually, believe it or not. Um, that was the experience where it really pinnacled, and then after that, it was kind of like nothing happened to me for for a good period of time in my life, which was which was, you know, obviously great, but um, yeah, that that was um just a horrible experience that again it took years and years and years to actually even to be able to recall that because I had memories that would come back and they were so intense, I can't tell you what it feels like to be like, I'm not gonna come out alive, you know.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Um and to the person that was sexually abusing you as a child was responsible for the trafficking, or you just got in some bad company.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Yeah, yeah. I can't really go into that too much. Um, but yes, there was a connection there.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Ah wow, wow. That is unfortunate.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Yeah, and there's just so much that again, there's so much that I've learned since then because especially as of late, when I've been really looking into trafficking and just being like, oh my god, because you know, a situation like mine as well was so it was so well hidden. Like even this staged kidnapping was so well done that it's like, you know, people that were bystanders wouldn't have come and gone, you know, get get her away, like get her out of, you know, get her away from these people kind of thing. It was very, very well staged. So there's so much that I've learned about this kind of deal with trafficking and what it looks like, and how often, you know, people wouldn't even be able to pick up on the signs and things that that's that that's taking place, how many people actually get trafficked. Um, you know, and even like I think I saw a video not that long ago where it was like a girl was on the plane with someone and it just looked, it looked fine, and she wasn't screaming and saying, Get me out of the plane. You know what I mean? But there was um something like that. I don't it was filmed and it was like some situation where it they started seeing warning signs about how just the body language between the two of them. And that's what I'm saying. Like a lot of the time, you know, we look at trafficking and we see it, and it is, and it's I mean, it's every variety to be honest, but a lot of the time as well, it's very well hidden and disguised, you know, and a lot of it gets behind that that's a little bit of a subject.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

That's a subject I know nothing about. I know that um, you know, I had, you know, I adopted some some girls and they were runaways. And most of the time when they run away, I'm thinking that they're someone stole them and they're trafficked. But that was that was the extent of my knowledge about it. And I know that, you know, when you go to the airport, uh, there's a big there's a big emphasis in the United States on human trafficking. So we know that it's um something that's going on, but you know, I was under the impression that most times it happens when uh the girls are on the street and somebody, you know, I wasn't aware that it can be someone you know, like what you're name. Um uh yeah, someone you know or a family member or or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

But um it is it has been this that's the thing that and it happens, right?

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Yeah, yeah, and it's it's scary because it happens this. I um I was, you know, the Jeffrey Epstein is everybody's been talking about for a little while. And um there's this, I'm not sure if you want to call her trafficking or not, but there was this um uh story that I read where this girl went to a modeling assignment and someone said to her, Hey, you know, I can get you work in the United States. And then two weeks later, she was on a plane to the United States for what she thought was modeling. Uh-huh. And then she ended up going to Epstein's estate and was, you know, uh, I'm not sure what the legal word for traffic is, or you know, she was just whatever the word is, but she was she was, you know, taken to this place beyond her. Um and she didn't have anything to do. She just she just stayed there and do what her captors said that she needed to do. And I think she was there for a couple of years.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Um it's not so it's not surprising.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

No, a lot of the time, actually, people are lured in by those possibilities. Would that be under the banner of trafficking? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay because at the end of the day, it's false pretenses. Um, she's been lured in under a you know, false pretense and a promise of some sort. And the promise doesn't relate to the experience that she's had, you know.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

So she's been missing one modeling job.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

She was just kidnapped. Yeah, I mean, she only did one modeling, you know, only for one person that she probably didn't want to, you know. I mean, right. And that's the horrible thing how how it takes place, how they, you know, the victims can be kind of lured in, and also how they can be really, you know, like kind of molded. Um, and a lot of the time people feel so much shame and guilt around it as well, because they in a situation like that. That's the unfortunate part.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

That's the unfortunate part, you know. Yeah, because I know when you said that you weren't able to talk about it, I knew right away that it was sexual abuse because we all feel shame about that. I didn't talk about my sexual abuse until I was in my 40s because I felt shame about it. So um that's you know, and as soon as you say you didn't want to talk or shame, I knew that that's where it was coming from. And I'm not quite sure why we what what the brain does that makes us feel shame of it's somebody taking advantage of us as a child, right? And yeah, as a child, we weren't able to give consent, right? So, but we feel shame and we don't talk about it yet.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

I think as well because well, I know with mine, there's there's a lot of gaslighting involved in it. So when somebody says no, like it's clearly happened, and there's you've got the the physical proof, you know, right, you know, wounds in that as well. So, you know, it's clearly happened, you know, let's be real. But a lot of the time what happens is, and I've heard this time and time and time again, is the perpetrator will always gaslight the victim or discredit the victim, you know. That's and that's kind of what Epstein did.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

The girl that I was talking about, her father is the one that sexually abused her. Um, and he told her that it was her fault that she made him do it. Yeah, and then her mom saw what happened, and the mom collapsed, and she felt that she was responsible for her mom. Um, and she took that that guilt and shame, you know, for years. And that I can understand, you know, like a girl gets raped and they said it's because you're wearing a short skirt. You know, they try to put the blame on you, yeah. Right. Or you did something to entice somebody, but that is that is never true. That is never true, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Oh my gosh, that's what um it's really interesting because when I was little, um I remember that's what they said about me, you know. Oh, we need to watch out for her. She's you know, look at her, look at look at how sensual, you know, kind of thing. Yeah, she is. And it's like I'm I'm three, you know. What do I what do I know about that kind of stuff at three? You know, I just love tutus and like I loved wearing little out, you know, I used to love wearing my mum's clothes. I would dress up in them. I think, you know, even back then I loved all of that stuff, all the fashion, and you know, I put like all these bangles and things on me, and you know, but what do you know about sexual things like that? Well, those men are looking, they're looking in this sequence. And you know what I find, you know, it is creepy. Like, why is a guy gonna say something like that about a three-year-old? Let's be real. That is not a normal thing for an adult man to say, you know, about a three-year-old. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

So all right, well, this is a very good introduction to um uh the traumas that you've had, and you know, so now let's talk about your transcendence. Um I like what you say that your DNA is kind of a biological internet. Yeah, tell us about that. How did you discover that?

SPEAKER_01 30:54

So um really it's look, I would say through very heightened awareness, like I was, you know, kind of born with these very intense arrays of like, you know, I just born with very um, you know, intense ESP, so to speak. And that's kind of, you know, something that I've always had since birth, but to be honest, like so much of my life I've been living in it like unconsciously until there was a real point where I kind of awakened into it. It was so interesting. It was around um the time of my divorce when my ex left me and I had this um this dream that I was being killed, and it was like it was so real. I felt like I you wouldn't know the difference between awake and asleep is how real it felt. And it was like something about I got killed, like winded, like I don't know, strangulated or something. Um, and as I was dying, as I crossed over from death, it's like I woke up and I went, that wasn't a dream. And it was like when I woke up, it was like, you know, I'm I've been asleep and now I'm awake, kind of thing. It was like all of a sudden I was conscious, like very, very aware of myself, my abilities, um, just this real heightened awareness and real, you know, consciously aware of all of that. So it was so interesting, like, you know, sleepwalking through my life. And then this big trigger happened, this dream just before, you know, um, my divorce, and it's it's like that was a huge awakening. And um, yeah, so really it's through that kind of connection. Through, you know, I call it like I've actually explained it in my work, it's a cellular law of relation, and it's relationship and it's mediated through DNA interaction. And what it basically enables is, you know, natural intelligence in in any living system, and it's very omniscience. So it's kind of you know, the morphological, the behavioral information processing and transference that's happening in living systems. So it's you know, that's what's happening in mind, but I'm very aware of it. And so what I started doing was researching and looking into this with genetics. It's been evolving over 10 years, to be honest. It's not exactly, it's been it's a big project, you know, 10 years young. Um, but it's so fascinating because, you know, it's more about that. It it enables, it's what we can, it's what it can open the doors to how to heal, how to resolve conflict, how to protect yourself and maintain that privileged midpoint of like harmony by which all phenomena is formed and created and sustained in. It's this real, you know, um, I think like a transhumanism quality in a sense that we have a capability of actually possessing naturally, you know. Um, yes, with my engineering and all the work, it's like there's a process involved with that. When you combine certain precious materials and metabolic manipulation, in that sense, it allows for precise, kind of non-invasive spatial control of ultrasound, really, is what we're kind of talking about. So this is like absolute abstract sound and it modulates sound waves into complex patterns, which we know how DNA works with complex, you know, sound patterns. And this creates moving acoustic fields, and it's these, it's in the field that it allows intelligence then to move in multiple directions that trigger biological responses, and that omniscience is the access to God through this cellular law of relation that's mediated through DNA.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Okay, wow, that was complex, so I don't have any circle backs on that one. So, a follow-up question to that. So, how does you talk about the higher power of God? So, how does someone begin connecting to their higher power in a practical way? Now I know I connect to God by prayer, by meditation, but you're just talking about you know the DNA. How do what's a practical way to start doing that?

SPEAKER_01 35:22

Well, what I find interesting, okay, is that um as we know the DNA, as I was explaining, works through pattern sounds and whatnot. So another thing that we've been, um, there's a lot of research that's been done, um, is actually to do with epigenetics. So we understand, right, for example, that DNA doesn't age. It's actually the gene expression that kind of it's almost like a phone getting bugs over time, right? And a phone gets bugs, it slows down, it gets corrupt. And it's like, that's actually what makes us age. Do you know that? DNA actually doesn't age. So that's kind of the really cool thing here. And DNA actually responds to intention. So, for example, you know, and they've done, they've done an array of research on this, and I found this is what I got so fascinated by because I went, This is just one of the most beautiful things in that sense. Like, so you know, if you actually have um a loving intention, and this is what they did, they're just like when they had participants sending love to this DNA strand, it actually the DNA strand actually was able, it started healing itself, so it was responding to that intent of love, and it actually started healing itself. So there are frequencies. I know there's 528 Hertz that a lot of people listen to that is related to love. And I would say honestly, if you want to start connecting to that higher ability that you've got, I've got to tell you, it's always silence, it's always presence because the sharpness of the presence is that real heightened awareness where it's like imagine, you know, you've got the electromagnetic spectrum, right? How big it is. And I think you've seen with a human being, we access what looks like a pinhead of the entire spectrum. Now imagine if we could access all that spectrum, that entire spectrum, that's what reaches God. But how are we going to reach God when we're a pinhead where we're only we're not aware of God? It's not that God's not there. We're not aware of it because we're only accessing a pinhead of what is an entirety of field that can access. If we can access everything, then we can become aware because we're we have awareness of it. You know, it's like saying with AI and um, you know, we're talking about consciousness at the moment, you know, and they're saying, yeah, the difference is with natural intelligence and AI, for example, is, you know, that it doesn't, it's it doesn't understand what it's spitting out. Same thing with us. And it's like, so if we want to become, if we want to start connecting to that in a practical way, I would say the first thing is heightening your awareness, and that's through, you know, breath work. It's it's um all the kind of daily practices that you do to gain presence, and presence tends to be like you, there's so many different meditations and things that you can work with, and you just sit there and it's just noticing things. You can start off with your body and your being. And this is how I started healing, actually, with somatic work. That's probably been my best friend in therapy out of everything I've tried. I'd say the somatic work has been the most powerful because you can learn duality in that. When you feel something that is unbearable, you start training your nervous system to go, okay, this is absolutely unbearable, but everything consists of counters, right? So for this counter, for this crap that I'm feeling right now that's overwhelming, what's something that feels good right now? And so then you sit with them together and go, Well, that feels strange. This feels great, and that feels absolutely like unbearable, and they both exist simultaneously together. That's probably one of the most powerful practices because when you can experience that, that really starts heightening your awareness. You know, I always say silence, you don't hear things in the noise. And unfortunately, the reality, you know, society is just like full of noise and and activation. And, you know, look at the news. I mean, that'll just like stress you out and give you a heart attack at them, you know. Yeah, it's really but everything I was just having a conversation with my friend uh yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

She was telling me that one of the people that I love and I told her to follow, she's saying that he was talking bad about the media and now she's the media, and she almost wanted to unfollow him. I said, he's not talking bad, it's it's the truth, you know. Um uh the media is all negativity. I don't watch the news, but if you don't watch the news, she says, how are you gonna know what's going on in the world? I said, Why do you need to know what's going on in the world? I get the bumper sticker news, you know, the highlights. So I gotta tell you, I've got the I'm smart. You're not gonna sit down and and watch, trust me.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

I tell you I'm the same because I kind of I I already can perceive it anyway with my ability, and I think it just bombs me out every day. It overloads my system. So it's like I'll be honest with you, like I'll stay right away from all of that, right?

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Um, but that's that's very good. Now, I've had um a couple of interviews on the show about the somatic, and I've done um I've done something, but I've never really experienced it. So I love what you say about duality. So when I think about duality, I'm thinking that we're getting into our spiritual being, right? Um, so what exactly is going on when you're able to experience the good and the bad all at once? What is what's going on?

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Well, you're ex you're able to experience a full parity. It's almost like saying, if I just experience dark, for everything that there's a dark, there's light, right? So I'm only experiencing otherwise half a parody, which means I'm not seeing the full story. And so I'm not really, I would be present if I'm half a thing, you know, it's like I'm I'm not fully existing. So when we start talking about duality, duality measurement, you know, we're measuring, we're measuring reality as it really is, which is counter. We've got absolute everything has a counter. So for every, you know, negative thing that's a positive thing. There's always a counter to everything.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

Well, we we all know that. You know, you can't experience lighting things. You don't know darkness. I know that part, right? Yeah. But I wasn't sure that people experience darkness and light at the same time. So the Yes, that's what kind of starts opening it.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

That's what kind of is almost like that real what they talk about, three, five anti-codon, codon sequencing and all of that, which is very powerful in um, you know, analytical work in DNA um and whatnot. So I was about to say, like when you actually experience that together, I actually started noticing a really big shift just in myself. Well, of course. Because then it's like when you we're just not running away from it kind of thing. Because that's the thing, like when we experience dark and something is so overwhelming, that darkness is so loud, it's very hard to go, okay. I'm just like, can you just put aside? It's like a loud kid screaming, and it's like, ah, I can't hear anything else. But there is something else, you know. You just like getting the loud kid and going, hey, just chill, just hang tight, and like, ah, ah, ah, you know, because they're both there. It's just that the loudness just gains so much of our attention and awareness, like a kid screaming, right? That just won't stop. That's like, you know, that you you don't even you don't even think of another option. You don't think, oh, there's something else that exists, right? It's like, no, at that moment, that's got all your attention.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

That's what I'm saying. So it's very hard for people to experience duality because um so I I just wanted to know what's what was what's actually going on. Are we going in somewhere for spirituality or or how that's I mean, that is probably the word that we're talking about here transcend transcendence.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Because that's what transcendence meditation is, but all right, but yeah, for a conversation and it's just being able to ask that, you know. A big thing is asking that when there's something really loud, saying, hang on, there's something else. Yeah, that's yeah, that's that, but there's something else. That's I think what we don't do. It's not that we don't know duality, you know, like we know, but I think that's really powerful when you start getting to the point in your life where you can start being like that on a regular occasion, it becomes normal for you to be able to experience both.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

Oh, well, yeah. I mean, once you do the work the first time, you've you've broken through. So then it becomes it becomes easier as you go on, right?

SPEAKER_01 44:43

Yeah, and this is the thing, that is what that's kind of what activates presence, right? Then presence, all of that, you start getting to a point. I know I got to a point that's kind of, you know, I've I've already got like this magnetic intensity, but that's enabled me to turn lights on and stuff. But that's where it comes from with the telekinesis that I get. You know, it's that extreme presence of like it's it's almost like it creates a stop, you know what I mean? And in that stop, you've got like this flux kind of thing. And that flux is what then enables it's like mind over matter, and it's it's it's incredibly powerful. I'm telling you from experience. When I turned a light on the first time, I was like, oh no, and I'm like, far out, and then I did it again, it's like and I'm like, oh my god, oh, I wish I filmed that, you know. That's okay. That's pretty good, pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

So you've done the work, girl. All right, so um so how how can someone trust their intuition again after trauma? So, like you said, you you've gone through some darkness um as a child, and probably as a young adult, I said you said you didn't become um uh you know, start doing this work until you're 30. So as uh you had your childhood and as a young adult where you had some stuff. So um you had a lot of trauma, but now you're into into your intuition, you're doing some good work, you're into, you know, most people are probably never gonna get to your level, but how can they just begin to start trusting your gut again?

SPEAKER_01 46:24

Okay, this is important. I I actually what I genuinely believe is we can always trust our basic gut instincts. It's that we it's almost like that we deviate from that with trauma. And what it's really important to learn is differentiate the fear and the trauma from reality, and that is where somatic work, I personally feel like I keep going into somatics, but I do just because it's the most basic. Um, things like EMDR and all of that, the hypno-type things that, you know, um that work with epigenetics and all of that are fantastic as well. But for someone like me, even they were very triggering and they were too dangerous, and everyone was like, Oh my god, no, we can't even do that with you. Like, no one, like a toothpick would break me, you know. So I was like, Go real gentle, real soft with me, and for a long time, you know. You know, it was like whoa, steady. I would just be like out, you know, can't feel, you know, like that's how full on it was, you know, it was like a toothpick would have broken me. So um it's it's a really soft, gentle, like I would say, just coming from absolute, probably like really rock bottom crap for a long time, is that I had to learn really slowly to differentiate the fear that came from the trauma from reality, because the fear will make you see reality differently. Imagine, like, right, you've got a mirror, you're looking at a mirror, and that's reality. You look back, you see the whole image of yourself, and it's like, yep, yep. Imagine trauma is like looking at a mirror and you've thrown a rock into the mirror and it's like broken, like a million broken pieces looking back at you. It distorts reality. That's what trauma is just distorts it. So it's like looking back at a cracked mirror with all these broken pieces, so it just distorts the image of everything. That's their reality, that's what they see. Exactly. And so the only way out of that is to re-weave that back into a oneness, and that is that the body has to get this, the nervous system, it has to get what it didn't get to finish, it has to finish it. Because really, what trauma is is a blocked, it's an experience that was so traumatic that the nervous system shut down, blocked it. So it's still stuck in there. It hasn't been able to finish the process, so to speak, to release it. And what happens is is that then distorts our, you know, our vision of reality and our perception of reality. And that's what kind of then just, you know, deviates us away from our intuition because we don't know what to trust anymore. And the best way back to that is then working on the nervous system, working on, I always say like somatic body work because it's the most basic and it's the most powerful in that sense with the nervous system, because the nervous system, as you know, like it re-it wires into everything. I mean, your nervous system is like your main highway. So, you know, you've got all these blocks in it. You've got to start working on being able to get what it couldn't get out. It's we've got to get it out. Let it finish its job, you know, because it knows what to do, believe it or not. And you've got to let it finish it. So there's big, there's processes of actually being able to sit there. You know, someone who I actually really love who um does somatic work is Britt Piper. She's the one that I've kind of been following for a while now. And I gotta tell you, I think that woman is amazing. I she really knows her stuff. And, you know, I think in a situation like that, depending on how severe the trauma is, is depending on how slow your body, you know, how how long do you take to metabolize a burger? Everyone's gonna be different, you know? It's like everybody's different. So you've got to go, like the things are to go as far as you can go, feeling things, being able to sit with it, doing exercises, like when you like, you know, I mentioned duality is one, but also as you're feeling this, feel your body, fill the room. What's your body saying? What's it doing? You know, you start sensing the trauma, feeling it. You've got to get your body to the point where it's not scared of it, when you can start becoming curious, when you can start strengthening that nervous system to feel safe enough to finish its job. So, you know, over time, and this, you know, just I gotta tell you the thing is you gotta learn to be nice to yourself. So many of us, I know myself, like you're so self-critical that it's like, God, who needs enemies when you've got that mind of yours that's like yeah, yeah. I gotta tell you, like it doesn't matter with the external enemies, like they're nothing to the mind at times, you know.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

Well, you know, you make some really good analogies, and I'm able, I'm able to um to get into your into the mindset of what you're talking about. And I love the one about the distorted mirror, right? Because again, yeah, it's what we believe, what we see, and that's very true. So um uh so you suggest that someone starts with um a therapist and um a somatic sound healing. I'm assuming that's what somatic is, right? Somatic sound healing in order to start the distortion better. I mean, uh rewiring um so that they are able to get rid of that mirror and that image.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

Yeah, yeah. Because look, um you've got to one thing I will always say to someone is you do not want to activate the nervous system. That's why you've got to start gentle and build up. There, you I used to think, no, you've just got to do what you've got to do, get it out. Like you won't, and I can't tell you how many triggers I had and how many bottle shops I hit thinking that I know, but I'm still on the way, I'm doing the right thing. And it's like, no my gosh, I just slowed down the process because I was going so hard on myself. No, actually, if you come out of a therapy session worse than when you came in, it's not right, it's not working properly. That's not the goal of therapy. It's not the goal. So it's you go as gentle as you need, um, as long as you need, you know, you you got to learn to trust yourself again. Yeah. And that's a massive thing. And you do little things to gain self-trust. You know, that's another thing that I did. You do little things, promises that you can keep. That's why you got to start off small, you know, because it's like you got to be real with yourself as well. So for me, it was like I started off having lemon water in the morning, right? Because I went, okay, that's a gentle self-trust kind of thing, you know. To be like, I'm gonna like exercise every day and I'm gonna be like, and I was like, no, no, okay, that's like we're not gonna lie here. So I've just I started, I was like, let's just lemon water is kind, you know, like you you gotta learn to befriend yourself. Something that you can do, right? Exactly, because you know, you're carrying so much that's not yours, that's the problem. There's so much experience that's stuck in us, or things that we're carrying that aren't actually ours, and we're so bogged down, and we think that self-hate and self-criticism and all of that is normal, and it's like, no, it's not actually, we're not designed that way, and that's not who we are, but to come back home to ourselves and to re-weave that brokenness back into a oneness is like that process of then, you know, acceptance, understanding, acceptance that comes from that real groundwork. I say groundwork, I feel like somatics are really strong, kind of groundwork, grounding, you know, the groundwork in healing. But again, everybody's different. Um, cognitive therapy is great, but I feel, I'll be completely honest with you, cognitive therapy can go to a degree, then it can be like sometimes it can keep people stuck there. It's like I think you gotta, you know, you kind of get a feeling sometimes when you're going around in circles and you're like, I think I've been here before. Oh, I think I've been here before. It's like the guinea pig like going, mmm, like shocking itself, you know.

unknown 54:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 54:44

But you start you, you just you learn through trial and error, you know. You gotta, it's learning to be gentle with yourself, not so harsh, hey. Like, you know, it's okay, none of us are perfect. We all make mistakes, do you know, all sorts of things. I think we all have a story to tell, and it's coming back home to ourselves, you know, that unconditional love that's like it's okay, you know. Even when you make a mistake, you you backtrack or you do something that you're like, gosh, you know, no, that's okay, you know? And it's being able to love that nervous system, build bringing yourself back home into a safe place that you can get your body in a safe enough place, the nervous system to go, okay, we can now finish the job we started, you know. And that's what I said, all these practices that are so powerful, these somatic practices, um, and things. And you know, some people can do them on their own, some people don't need to see a therapist, like you know, I know lots of people that have been able to I mean, but I personally feel like yeah, you need to see a therapist, the right one that is, um that can really be there to help guide you, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:58

To be there for you. I don't think top therapy does anything, but if you go into some deeper therapy, like the EMDR or the cognitive, and they've got so many different things now that they can do. Um, and I've been hearing about the somatic for a while. I guess I'll I'll I'll go deeper into understanding it. Um but um yeah, I'm glad to know you're giving me high, high um um high praise, right? Okay. Well, wow, this has been um a very illuminating conversation. I didn't think they were talking about some of the buzzwords that that I talk about in the show, which is trauma and you know, um nervous system resetting and and all these different things that are are you know part of the structure of uh of the show. Um uh so thank you for as I'm listening to you, I'm thinking, wow, this is gonna fit so well into some other series that I'm doing. So that's amazing. All right, so tell, yeah, this is great. So tell our listeners how they can connect with you. What do you offer? I mean, are you doing coaching? Are you what is it that you're offering to our listeners?

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Um, look, I actually, yes, I'm I'm working on this scientific work that I'm calling Annika, but I do actually offer consultations. What I do is I'm a kinesiologist and a Reiki practitioner as well. I work very strongly with kinesiology because um I actually wouldn't even get by a day in my life if I didn't have kinesiology because of my heightened ability. So I can feel like I experience quantum and physicality and that together. So when something's out and all of that, it's to me, it's like, whoa, you know, I'm very aware of it. Um, so it kinesiology kind of is like you can program affirmations into you with epigenetics, but in a way that you're manually doing it. So instead of like, you know, I'm thinking this and I'll practice this affirmation X amount of times, I can program it in in a way through the kinesiology. Um that's like fast tracking it. Do you know what I mean? It's like I'm formatting a computer, you know, and it's like through through biofeedback from muscle monitoring, the body actually tells you like what it wants to talk about, what it doesn't, the severity, like what it wants to balance. And that's a very strong healing, you know. That's kind of one of my main, that's probably the things that I've worked with the most is kinesiology and somatics. So yeah, I definitely I do offer kinesiology. Um, oh no, I don't actually, I don't actually teach somatics. Oh, okay. Um, I yeah, I just work with kinesiology. I was thinking of doing a somatics course though, because I just thought, wow, it's too good, you know, like it's so it's so beneficial. I love doing all these things, you know. But I always had a natural healing ability all my life, and I've been able to do things for people that was very like um ananimous in a sense, like, you know, couldn't explain it. So I was like, all right, I'll just, you know, I'll offer that um wherever possible. So I do offer kinesiology, but you can kind of get onto that. The main site that I use, I've got um www.arnica.com, which is like ana a-n-a with the ka.com. That's my website, and that's got links on it. Um, and like you can write on my website and I'll always answer. But my Instagram account is probably the one that I, you know, that that's kind of my one social media site where I write heaps on that. So if you want to learn all about, you know, natural intelligence and the DNA as the internet and all of that, that that's like, you know, oh my god, an encyclopedia on my um Instagram site. And that's what is your handle there? That is Annika Official. All one word, Annika Official. And on that, that's actually got a link to my other one that's bioenergetic well-being. And that's the one that um I do, I offer kinesiology. Actually, I can work with people in person. I live in Melbourne, Australia, but I work with a lot of people. I've worked with animals, uh, fetuses, humans, like you name it, like I work with anyone kind of thing. I can balance anything. I can balance houses, cars, like you name it. I do a lot of house clearings and stuff like that as well. Um, yeah, all sorts of stuff. But you can, there's a link to that on my Arnica official. That's the bioenergetic well-being one. If anyone was ever interested in my services in that sense of like holistic health. Um, but yeah, that's that's pretty much it, I would say. Like my main handles.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

Okay, that's amazing. So when you do these services, like the house cleaning, you can do them obviously remote.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

Yes, I can. It's pretty awesome. And I can, you know, like either write it all down in an email kind of thing, um, or I can actually do Zoom sessions. I can do all of that, like, you know, whatever works for people. Okay. And yeah, it's pretty cool. Like I can, I can do it in, yeah. So you can kind of hear it, you know, like live as I'm doing it. And or it's like, you know, so it just depends what people are interested in, you know. Some people kind of prefer it if you just write it in an email for them, which is fair enough. Um, that's very non-confrontational and very like reflective. They can go over it in their own time, or it's like, you know, more interactive experience kind of thing. Like what is how and it's really cool because when one working on people and things, they can it depends how sensitive the person is, like they can feel it and they're like, Oh my god, yeah, look, oh my god, my head feels funny. That feels like, you know, oh, I feel I feel calmer, I feel this.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I'm very impressed with you, Sarah. I love it when people say, you know, I don't look like what I've gone through, um, and you don't. I love it. I want to say things like, you know, where you start off is not where you end up, like me and you. Yeah. I mean, we are, it is it is such an amazing to see someone that's turned their life around from how they started. Um, so I give kudos to you, give kudos to the work that you're doing. Um, you were born with a little bit of natural ability. So the good thing is, you know, your your talent didn't die in the grave with you because a lot of people have natural ability and they don't do anything with it. So I'm glad that um you're near that experience. I think that was your trigger to start working on this thing, right? So that is how actually, yeah, because definitely that was said that you're a boomerang back. Is that you went over to the other side and then you just shot you right back? We're not ready for you, you're not working for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:54

They're like, nah. I mean, it's so funny. It's like I've experienced stuff, you know. I've been a medium and all of that all my life. Like I've I've got it all going on, it's the circus, but they're just like, nah, it was so fast.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:07

Just like no, like lovingly, just no.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:15

You definitely have the language, you've been able to um, you know, visually, uh, you know, your language is very visual, so people can actually feel and see what you're talking about. I love it. All right, Chris. So let me um uh, you know, wrap up here. Um uh, you know, this was just a powerful and eye-opening conversation. If there's one thing to take away from today's episode, is this you are far more powerful, connected, and intelligent that you've been led to believe. Your past does not define you, which is exactly what I just said, but your ability to heal, grow, and reconnect with yourself can transform everything. Healing is not just about surviving what happened to you, it's about rediscovering who you were always meant to be. So if this episode spoke to you, I encourage you to take a moment and reflect. Where in your life are you being called to reconnect with yourself, your intuition, or your higher power? Let this be your invitation to go deeper. And if you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs this message today. And as always, remember your mind is powerful, your healing is possible, and your transformation starts now. So, Sarah, uh it's almost the end of our show. Any last words?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:34

Yeah, I I love actually, I was just thinking, bless you, like you've been through so much as well, and look at how you've come out, you know. Um, I've been really interested to hear what you had to say about your life as well. And I would say to people, you know what, just you're here, and you know, bless you all because this place is is is is it's challenging, you know. It is challenging, and we're going through a lot um as a society, you know, in the world now, um, multi-species, you know, animals, humans, and we're here. Um, and you know, uh sending my love to you all and bless you, and you can do this.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

Yeah, we can. You've got the poster child, you know, if she can do it, you can do it too. And if I can do it, you can do it too. Yes, right. Or talk about it. No, you can really, it's like people that have um been through childhood trauma and um come out on the other side, so it's possible. You gotta do the work, right? Yeah, all right, guys. Well, listen, thank you, Sarah, for being on the show. Thank you for this fabulous conversation. Um, I love when you know people are able to change their lives around and also help people in the process because that's what we're here to do. We're here to take our test, become a testimony, and help someone else that's in the test phase of their lives to get to the testimony phase of our lives. So that is what Sarah has been able to show us today. So thank you guys for tuning in to this week's episode. Um, thank you, Sarah, again for being on the show. And I'll see you guys in the next episode. Until then, namaste.